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Article #2328Re: case study #2
From: Paul Lee
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 00:00
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Ah, Dr Krin, you left out the neuro exam. Does he have sign of neuropathy? Does he have delayed deep tendon reflex release? What is his auditory acuity? Does he have any hallucination? Any tremor? The salient feature is profound dyspnea with bilateral crackles and pedal edema, cold intolerance, auditory/visual acuity loss, clubbing, irritability, mild jaundice. Based on info supplied so far, some of the considerations are: (1)Non-ETOH stuff (ETOH is a red herring) A. Hypothroidism/Myxedema (cold intolerance, hearing acuity change, edema) B. Grave's. (CHF, clubbing, irritability, tachycardia) C. Others: pneumonia, P.E. >>> I really doubt. That would be too boring. D. HIV (e.g. PCP)/ TB type of stuffs. Lower on my DDx but must be kept in mind. (2)ETOH A. Beriberi and thiamine deficiency (edema+ crackle + SOB suggests CHF. In this scenario thiamine deficiency is commonly seen in case presentation if not in real life.) Does he have neuropathy? B. ETOH cardiomyopathy C. Liver failure>>>renal failure>>>fluid overload D. Methanol/ethylene glycol ingestion with renal failure. What is in in that "Thunderbird" bottle? Is it just a cheap wine or is there something else? What do you smell? Additional historical items: where and how did he get his booze? The duration of his dyspnea and pedal edema as well as probable ascites? Took anything else, like cocaine? In addition to the usual stuffs (SMA20/CBC/Osm, u/a, ABG, stat CXR, EKG, iv, oxygen, rhythm and sat monitor), we need to get tox screen, alcohol levels (ethanol,methanol, and ethylene glycol), thyroid tests. He needs thiamine as well as other vitamins. Cardiac echo to document heart function would be nice, but then he has no insurance so it may be tough to get and this could wait. Paul Lee
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101376,6e9e79c943a0b57a X-Google-Attributes: gid101376,public X-Google-Thread: 10711c,6e9e79c943a0b57a X-Google-Attributes: gid10711c,public X-Google-Thread: 1162c2,6e9e79c943a0b57a X-Google-Attributes: gid1162c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10ee25,6e9e79c943a0b57a X-Google-Attributes: gid10ee25,public From: Paul Lee <leexx189@tc.umn.edu> Subject: Re: case study #2 Date: 1997/05/14 Message-ID: <3379E276.499B@tc.umn.edu> X-Deja-AN: 241495266 References: <33775b5f.185040168@news.iamerica.net> To: tosspam@AOL.com Organization: University of Minnesota Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services,bit.listserv.snurse-l,sci.med.nursing,misc.education.medical