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Article #34Cyrix 6x86 overheats!!
From: David Curcie
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 00:00
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Everybody owning, considering buying a Cyrix 6x86 should read this. In a previous post in alt.computer.consultants I wrote: The problem is that the system has been behaving strangely when transferring data via the modem. Starting cold, it dials and logs on fine. Then when web browsing or FTP'ing, it starts off going full speed (>2.4 Kb/s) for a minute or so. Then, after about 155KB of data has been transferred, it starts stalling out and the transfer rate drops gradually to less than 100 B/s. The rate never recovers until after I shut down the system for a while. Just rebooting doesn't fix it. Also, the system crashed a few times after, but not necessarily during, using the modem. It also disconnected itself a few times during the stalling periods. One thing I didn't mention in my previous post was the fact that my system features a Cyrix 6x86 P166+. Based on these symptoms, I exhaustively experimented with my system settings and drivers for both the modem and sound card. I replaced the ROM chip in my Sportster Voice 33.6K, based on rumors about a hardware bug. Nothing worked consistently. I started physically removing the sound card, and that seemed to work, but it still wasn't consistent, since sometimes things would work fine with the card still in. It gradually became apparent that the only times the system was working correctly was when the minitower cover was off. This would indicate an overheating problem. I tested this by transferring data over the modem with the cover both ON and OFF. With it on, the modem transfer of data consistently stalled to near zero bytes/sec after about 3 to 5 minutes. Removing the cover (system still on and connected to the network) and blowing a room fan on the motherboard resulted in a complete recovery within 30 seconds. I did this several times and it was totally repeatable. I recently read an article (in PC Week, Aug. 19th) which talked about the Cyrix 6x86 chips having a tendency to overheat, due to irresponsible quality control on the part of the manufacturer. I found this very hard to believe. My case is the standard one I've seen Cyrix systems advertised in all over. It has the standard extra heat sink, and fan on the CPU, along with the fan sucking air in through the front and the fan in the power supply. Its like a wind tunnel in there. The room temperature is at the most 72 degrees. I even took the empty port covers off the back to increase the air circulation inside. I have to admit that I agree with all the people who say the 6x86 P166+ is fast as hell, but the fact is THEY OVERHEAT!!!!!! The symptoms in my case showed up mainly in data transfer on the comm port, and less often in occasional crashes. Cyrix tech support was little help. First they said that the CPU voltage may have been set too high (It wasn't). Then they said the fan may be too slow. They later denied this and began insisting that the motherboard may be incompatible. I had to check the list at their web site for compatability. A pretty small list. Never mind that my motherboard manual states that it IS compatible with the 6x86. SO, they won't take any responsibility for the problems, and advised me to go complain to my PC manufacturer. What happened to Full Pentium Compatability??. Bullshit, they were only referring to software applications that they tested. My advice is to stay away from the 6x86. You might save a few bucks at first, but its not worth the tons aggravation you may be setting yourself up for by not going with "the standard". Any comments or similar experiences with Cyrix chips? Dave C
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d683,c0b2d0ec8fa13f42,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10d683,public X-Google-Thread: 107ecf,c0b2d0ec8fa13f42,start X-Google-Attributes: gid107ecf,public From: curcie@niflheim.rutgers.edu (David Curcie) Subject: Cyrix 6x86 overheats!! Date: 1996/09/04 Message-ID: <50kjk0$kj0@niflheim.rutgers.edu> X-Deja-AN: 178482189 organization: Rutgers University newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.discussion,aus.computers.ibm-pc