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Re: Affordable Modem_Best Sv for New User?

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From: Tim Bowden
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 19:42
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raven@nocturne.boulder-creek.ca.us (Dean Stark) writes:

> I'm not sure what services would be most appropriate, but until AOL gets
> their Internet e-mail gateways in good working order, I say "pass" on AOL.
> We've had bounces, and recently, long delays (with no error messages) when
> sending "The Garret" mailing list from this site to AOL. News may be 
> similarly affected as well.

Peculiar.  I just counted 38 AOL accounts in Nerdnosh, and they go out
just fine each dawn.  The bounces I have seen are infrequent, and relate
to mail allottments - which are not explained to the user beforehand, I
think (I have a guest account).  I see these nagging `cletis has
exceeded his mail limit..' about three times a month, but as far as I
can tell the mail runs through there as well as any other commercial
system...

...such as Compuserve, which will send bounces back, not to the first
reply-to: envelope or the Sender: line, but to the Reply-to: pointing to
the original writer.  I just saw a non-delivery from a mailing list I
contributed to.  What am I supposed to do with that?

The great sin of AOL, in my opinion, is not that they prevent the mails
from running, but that they allow it, in some cases.  The raw recruits;
The effect is similar to raw sewage dumping.  Everything is so easy
there, and at other info services, and there isn't any dampening of the
fun with instructions about what sort of culture they may be blundering
into.

To take two turns off the severity of that last paragraph, I have to say
many of my favorite Noshers use that medium, including the SJ Merc
columnist who gave us such wonderful exposure and our own local
brilliant mystery writer and many others besides.  Plus, I guess you can
say I'm an AOLer as well.

But, man, I wish there were training wheels in some of dem places...

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From: tcbowden@clovis.nerdnosh.org (Tim Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.mac,ba.general,scruz.general,cruzio.general
Subject: Re: Affordable Modem_Best Sv for New User?
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