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Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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"The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and overcome are 
 Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.  The idea of every nation 
 should be forgot, price should be struck from the commons, and 
 princes should be seen for the devils they are.  The sins include 
 our church, secret societies, and other religions which make of 
 the spirit of God a divide." 

Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
2nd April 2005


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Ioannes Paulus PP. II<BR>Karol Wojtyla<BR>16.X.1978<BR>&nbsp;</font></b><br><br>
"The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.  
The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.  
The sins include our church, secret societies, and other religions which make of the spirit of God a divide." <br><br>
<font face="Charlemagne" size="3"><b>The Holy Father's last rites declaration - 2nd April 2005</b></font>
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as
cannot be perfectly expressed after them. Their sense of their exceeding
littleness and vileness, and their disposition to abase themselves
before God, has appeared to be great in proportion to their light and
joy.

Such persons amongst us as have been thus distinguished with the most
extraordinary discoveries, have commonly nowise appeared with the
assuming, self-conceited, and self-sufficient airs of enthusiasts, but
exceedingly the contrary. They are eminent for a spirit of meekness,
modesty, self-diffidence, and a low opinion of themselves. No persons
appear so sensible of their need of instruction and so eager to receive
it, as some of them; nor so ready to think others better than
themselves. Those that have been considered as converted amongst us,
have generally manifested a longing to lie low and in the dust before
God; withal complaining of their not being able to lie low enough.

They speak much of their sense of excellency in the way of salvation by
free and sovereign grace, through the righteousness of Chr
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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In article <a0c960b7.1149c53d@news.vatican.va>, Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote:
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>"The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and overcome are 
> Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.  The idea of every nation 
> should be forgot, price should be struck from the commons, and 
> princes should be seen for the devils they are.  The sins include 
> our church, secret societies, and other religions which make of 
> the spirit of God a divide." 
>
>Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
>2nd April 2005
>
>
Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 18:47
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GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote in
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> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote

>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.

Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.

>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from
>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.

The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.

>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."

>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
>> 2nd April 2005

Yawn.

> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!

I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart. 
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Clockmeister
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:48
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote in
> message news:d393tt$6aj$2@news.xmission.com...
> > Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote
>
> >> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
> >> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.
>
> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.
>
> >> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from
> >> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.
>
> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.

Or any other church.

> >> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
> >> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."
>
> >> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
> >> 2nd April 2005
>
> Yawn.
>
> > Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!
>
> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.

Says possibly the vilest and least respected person on usenet...

I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge that he probably
did more good then harm which is more then what can be expected from a
religious leader.

If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look no
further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:22
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Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:42592ed8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote
>>> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote

>>>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
>>>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.

>> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.

>>>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from
>>>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.

>> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.

> Or any other church.

Most of the other churches dont have 'princes',
some dont even have ministers/priests etc.

The stupid anglicans still have palaces, quite literally.

>>>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
>>>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."

>>>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
>>>> 2nd April 2005

>> Yawn.

>>> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!

>> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could
leave for dead flushed where it belongs>

> I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge
> that he probably did more good then harm

Utterly mindless pig ignorant silly stuff on birth control alone.

And then there's the terminal stupidity of banning condoms
in areas where AIDS is killing massive numbers.

And he never did a damned thing about the child
rapers in his utter obscenity of a church either.

And was stupid enough to not allow priest to
marry, which is guaranteed to attract poofters.

> which is more then what can be expected from a religious leader.

Any 'religious leader' that pontificates on moral issues
should have  got off his lard arse and done something
about the must utterly obscene moral depravitys that
so many of his priests get up to, molesting children.

Instead that complete clown just waffled
on about the evils of capitalism etc instead.

And that complete obscenity of a 'church' has opposed
every single worthwhile improvement in society since time
immemorial, everything from the elimination of slavery to
votes for women, democracy to contraception, etc etc etc.

> If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look
> no further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.

He aint the one that's just died. 
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Clockmeister
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 04:51
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3btn9tF6dkooqU1@individual.net...
>
> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in
> message news:42592ed8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote
> >>> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote
>
> >>>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
> >>>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.
>
> >> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.
>
> >>>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck
from
> >>>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.
>
> >> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.
>
> > Or any other church.
>
> Most of the other churches dont have 'princes',
> some dont even have ministers/priests etc.
>
> The stupid anglicans still have palaces, quite literally.

As long as there are gullible people searching for something that isn't
there there will be churches.

> >>>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
> >>>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."
>
> >>>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
> >>>> 2nd April 2005
>
> >> Yawn.
>
> >>> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!
>
> >> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could
> leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
>
> > I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge
> > that he probably did more good then harm
>
> Utterly mindless pig ignorant silly stuff on birth control alone.

Agreed.

> And then there's the terminal stupidity of banning condoms
> in areas where AIDS is killing massive numbers.

Agreed.

> And he never did a damned thing about the child
> rapers in his utter obscenity of a church either.

Agreed. Covering up instead of addressing the real issue is typical of all
churches though and not Roman Catholic specific.

> And was stupid enough to not allow priest to
> marry, which is guaranteed to attract poofters.

Perverted poofs will always find avenues to access children, whether it is
religion, teaching, scouts etc.

> > which is more then what can be expected from a religious leader.
>
> Any 'religious leader' that pontificates on moral issues
> should have  got off his lard arse and done something
> about the must utterly obscene moral depravitys that
> so many of his priests get up to, molesting children.
>
> Instead that complete clown just waffled
> on about the evils of capitalism etc instead.

Odd then that he helped topple communism in Poland according to many.

> And that complete obscenity of a 'church' has opposed
> every single worthwhile improvement in society since time
> immemorial, everything from the elimination of slavery to
> votes for women, democracy to contraception, etc etc etc.

Yep, and people voted with their feet. Only the gullible and stupid remain
devout to any kind of religion.

> > If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look
> > no further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.
>
> He aint the one that's just died.
>

He's still worse.
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Rod Speed
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:36
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Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:425a0266@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote
>>>>> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote

>>>>>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
>>>>>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.

>>>> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.

>>>>>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from
>>>>>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.

>>>> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.

>>> Or any other church.

>> Most of the other churches dont have 'princes',
>> some dont even have ministers/priests etc.

>> The stupid anglicans still have palaces, quite literally.

> As long as there are gullible people searching for
> something that isn't there there will be churches.

Sure, but thats a separate issue to which churches
have princes, palaces and even priests/ministers etc.

>>>>>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
>>>>>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."

>>>>>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
>>>>>> 2nd April 2005

>>>> Yawn.

>>>>> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!

>>>> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.

>>> I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge
>>> that he probably did more good then harm

>> Utterly mindless pig ignorant silly stuff on birth control alone.

> Agreed.

And that alone has done immense damage to third
world countrys like the Philipines and south america.

>> And then there's the terminal stupidity of banning condoms
>> in areas where AIDS is killing massive numbers.

> Agreed.

>> And he never did a damned thing about the child
>> rapers in his utter obscenity of a church either.

> Agreed. Covering up instead of addressing the real issue is
> typical of all churches though and not Roman Catholic specific.

Its rather worse in the catholic church tho, because of that
stupid policy of unmarried priests. That tends to attract the
worst of the arseholes to that particular church.

>> And was stupid enough to not allow priest to
>> marry, which is guaranteed to attract poofters.

> Perverted poofs will always find avenues to access
> children, whether it is religion, teaching, scouts etc.

Sure, but they get a lot more authority in a church like that.

And because there are so many in that particular
obscenity of a church, they get covered up a lot
more than in the other organisations too.

>>> which is more then what can be expected from a religious leader.

>> Any 'religious leader' that pontificates on moral issues
>> should have  got off his lard arse and done something
>> about the must utterly obscene moral depravitys that
>> so many of his priests get up to, molesting children.

>> Instead that complete clown just waffled
>> on about the evils of capitalism etc instead.

> Odd then that he helped topple communism
> in Poland according to many.

Its complete drivel, that had nothing to do with that fool.

That should be obvious with the demise of communism
in east germany and russia itself and china too.

>> And that complete obscenity of a 'church' has opposed
>> every single worthwhile improvement in society since time
>> immemorial, everything from the elimination of slavery to
>> votes for women, democracy to contraception, etc etc etc.

> Yep, and people voted with their feet. Only the
> gullible and stupid remain devout to any kind of religion.

Sure.

>>> If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look
>>> no further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.

>> He aint the one that's just died.

> He's still worse.

Not really, nothing like as effective on the terminal stupiditys like birth 
control etc. 
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
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Author: Clockmeister
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:59
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in
> message news:425a0266@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>>> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote
> >>>>> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va>
wrote
>
> >>>>>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
> >>>>>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.
>
> >>>> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.
>
> >>>>>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck
from
> >>>>>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.
>
> >>>> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.
>
> >>> Or any other church.
>
> >> Most of the other churches dont have 'princes',
> >> some dont even have ministers/priests etc.
>
> >> The stupid anglicans still have palaces, quite literally.
>
> > As long as there are gullible people searching for
> > something that isn't there there will be churches.
>
> Sure, but thats a separate issue to which churches
> have princes, palaces and even priests/ministers etc.
>
> >>>>>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
> >>>>>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."
>
> >>>>>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
> >>>>>> 2nd April 2005
>
> >>>> Yawn.
>
> >>>>> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!
>
> >>>> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.
>
> >>> I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge
> >>> that he probably did more good then harm
>
> >> Utterly mindless pig ignorant silly stuff on birth control alone.
>
> > Agreed.
>
> And that alone has done immense damage to third
> world countrys like the Philipines and south america.
>
> >> And then there's the terminal stupidity of banning condoms
> >> in areas where AIDS is killing massive numbers.
>
> > Agreed.
>
> >> And he never did a damned thing about the child
> >> rapers in his utter obscenity of a church either.
>
> > Agreed. Covering up instead of addressing the real issue is
> > typical of all churches though and not Roman Catholic specific.
>
> Its rather worse in the catholic church tho, because of that
> stupid policy of unmarried priests. That tends to attract the
> worst of the arseholes to that particular church.

Not true of all Catholic churches. I was baptised by a married Catholic
priest but not in this country :-)

> >> And was stupid enough to not allow priest to
> >> marry, which is guaranteed to attract poofters.
>
> > Perverted poofs will always find avenues to access
> > children, whether it is religion, teaching, scouts etc.
>
> Sure, but they get a lot more authority in a church like that.

Yes, that is true.

> And because there are so many in that particular
> obscenity of a church, they get covered up a lot
> more than in the other organisations too.

Yep.

> >>> which is more then what can be expected from a religious leader.
>
> >> Any 'religious leader' that pontificates on moral issues
> >> should have  got off his lard arse and done something
> >> about the must utterly obscene moral depravitys that
> >> so many of his priests get up to, molesting children.
>
> >> Instead that complete clown just waffled
> >> on about the evils of capitalism etc instead.
>
> > Odd then that he helped topple communism
> > in Poland according to many.
>
> Its complete drivel, that had nothing to do with that fool.

No, he waved his magic wand and it happended. Pay attention Rod...

> That should be obvious with the demise of communism
> in east germany and russia itself and china too.

The gullible and stupid need to see it as the will of god.

> >> And that complete obscenity of a 'church' has opposed
> >> every single worthwhile improvement in society since time
> >> immemorial, everything from the elimination of slavery to
> >> votes for women, democracy to contraception, etc etc etc.
>
> > Yep, and people voted with their feet. Only the
> > gullible and stupid remain devout to any kind of religion.
>
> Sure.
>
> >>> If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look
> >>> no further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.
>
> >> He aint the one that's just died.
>
> > He's still worse.
>
> Not really, nothing like as effective on the terminal stupiditys like
birth
> control etc.
>

Not as many blind followers perhaps so much less influential.
Re: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
#52
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:41
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Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:425ad729@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Clockmeister <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> GMAN <glenzabr@nospam.xmission.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> wrote

>> >>>>>> "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and
>> >>>>>> overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.
>>
>> >>>> Pity about the child raping by your arseholes.
>>
>> >>>>>> The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck
> from
>> >>>>>> the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.
>>
>> >>>> The 'princes' of that utter obscenity of a 'church' in spades.
>>
>> >>> Or any other church.
>>
>> >> Most of the other churches dont have 'princes',
>> >> some dont even have ministers/priests etc.
>>
>> >> The stupid anglicans still have palaces, quite literally.
>>
>> > As long as there are gullible people searching for
>> > something that isn't there there will be churches.
>>
>> Sure, but thats a separate issue to which churches
>> have princes, palaces and even priests/ministers etc.
>>
>> >>>>>> The sins include our church, secret societies, and other
>> >>>>>> religions which make of the spirit of God a divide."
>>
>> >>>>>> Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)
>> >>>>>> 2nd April 2005
>>
>> >>>> Yawn.
>>
>> >>>>> Oh hell , now the Pope is spamming EVERY newsgroup!
>>
>> >>>> I knew they should have hammered a stake thru its heart.
>>
>> >>> I'm no fan of religion as an atheist but I can acknowledge
>> >>> that he probably did more good then harm
>>
>> >> Utterly mindless pig ignorant silly stuff on birth control alone.
>>
>> > Agreed.
>>
>> And that alone has done immense damage to third
>> world countrys like the Philipines and south america.
>>
>> >> And then there's the terminal stupidity of banning condoms
>> >> in areas where AIDS is killing massive numbers.
>>
>> > Agreed.
>>
>> >> And he never did a damned thing about the child
>> >> rapers in his utter obscenity of a church either.
>>
>> > Agreed. Covering up instead of addressing the real issue is
>> > typical of all churches though and not Roman Catholic specific.
>>
>> Its rather worse in the catholic church tho, because of that
>> stupid policy of unmarried priests. That tends to attract the
>> worst of the arseholes to that particular church.

> Not true of all Catholic churches.

That last part is.

> I was baptised by a married Catholic priest but not in this country :-)

There's a few in this country too, basically anglican priest
that have changed into tykes. Those can keep their wife.

>> >> And was stupid enough to not allow priest to
>> >> marry, which is guaranteed to attract poofters.
>>
>> > Perverted poofs will always find avenues to access
>> > children, whether it is religion, teaching, scouts etc.
>>
>> Sure, but they get a lot more authority in a church like that.
>
> Yes, that is true.
>
>> And because there are so many in that particular
>> obscenity of a church, they get covered up a lot
>> more than in the other organisations too.
>
> Yep.
>
>> >>> which is more then what can be expected from a religious leader.
>>
>> >> Any 'religious leader' that pontificates on moral issues
>> >> should have  got off his lard arse and done something
>> >> about the must utterly obscene moral depravitys that
>> >> so many of his priests get up to, molesting children.
>>
>> >> Instead that complete clown just waffled
>> >> on about the evils of capitalism etc instead.
>>
>> > Odd then that he helped topple communism
>> > in Poland according to many.

>> Its complete drivel, that had nothing to do with that fool.

> No, he waved his magic wand and it happended. Pay attention Rod...

>> That should be obvious with the demise of communism
>> in east germany and russia itself and china too.

> The gullible and stupid need to see it as the will of god.

Most of those in east germany and russia and china dont.

>> >> And that complete obscenity of a 'church' has opposed
>> >> every single worthwhile improvement in society since time
>> >> immemorial, everything from the elimination of slavery to
>> >> votes for women, democracy to contraception, etc etc etc.
>>
>> > Yep, and people voted with their feet. Only the
>> > gullible and stupid remain devout to any kind of religion.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> >>> If you want to read some truly absurd and dangerous preaching look
>> >>> no further then the nonsense that the Dalai Lama has put to paper.
>>
>> >> He aint the one that's just died.
>>
>> > He's still worse.
>>
>> Not really, nothing like as effective on the terminal stupiditys like
> birth
>> control etc.

> Not as many blind followers perhaps so much less influential.

And less terminally stupid policy wise too.
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