🚀 go-pugleaf

Right, go ahead, sue, sue him, sue everybody. Sue for your right, sue for
more cash, sue for higher satisfaction, sue for your future.

Mind you, doctors have enough crap already, just like you do. This country
need help.



"Michael Campbell" <mjcampbell@erols.com.remove> wrote in message
news:3ca132f8.623105@news.rcn.com...
>
> It seems many doctors in the Northern Virginia area, especially in the
> whole USA, are violating ADA laws by refusing requests for sign
> language interpreter. All they think of is money, not patients and
> their needs. I ran into four of of them already, and I'm looking for
> an attorney. Do you know of a good lawyer that specializes in ADA in
> the Northern Virginia area?
>

While it is true that if a doctor takes you as a patient, he/she has a legal
obligation to provide an interpreter if you need it, I don't believe that
any doctor is obligated to take any person as a patient.....  But I agree
that what you're talking about is baaad business

Peace~
Lindsey


"fpharryc" <fpharryc@telocity.com> wrote in message
news:3ca279bd_3@news.newzpig.com...
> Right, go ahead, sue, sue him, sue everybody. Sue for your right, sue for
> more cash, sue for higher satisfaction, sue for your future.
>
> Mind you, doctors have enough crap already, just like you do. This country
> need help.
>
>
>
> "Michael Campbell" <mjcampbell@erols.com.remove> wrote in message
> news:3ca132f8.623105@news.rcn.com...
> >
> > It seems many doctors in the Northern Virginia area, especially in the
> > whole USA, are violating ADA laws by refusing requests for sign
> > language interpreter. All they think of is money, not patients and
> > their needs. I ran into four of of them already, and I'm looking for
> > an attorney. Do you know of a good lawyer that specializes in ADA in
> > the Northern Virginia area?
> >
>
>
>

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:04:00 -0600, "fpharryc" <fpharryc@telocity.com>
wrote:

>
>Mind you, doctors have enough crap already, just like you do. This country
>need help.

They certainly do and most of it is created by themselves!

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 03:07:08 GMT, mjcampbell@erols.com.remove (Michael
Campbell) wrote:

>
>It seems many doctors in the Northern Virginia area, especially in the
>whole USA, are violating ADA laws by refusing requests for sign
>language interpreter. All they think of is money, not patients and
>their needs. I ran into four of of them already, and I'm looking for
>an attorney. Do you know of a good lawyer that specializes in ADA in
>the Northern Virginia area?

Now that I've found an attorney who specializes in ADA.... next step
is to request an interpreter... they won't provide an interpreter...
duh... they, like the doctor, expect me to bring my interpreter...
yeah, right.... they specialize in ADA, yet they refuse to provide
interpreter... what an ironic twist...

What good is ADA when you can't communicate with an attorney?

There's only one signing attorney in the area, but this attorney only
serves MD and DC, not Virginia... I'm in Virginia... damn...

Meanwhile, I'm filing complaints to DOJ and state attorney while I'm
in contact with the NAD Law Center...

OK.. give me a minute  to digest this...
You're going to sue a doctor who won't pay for your interpreter...
but in order to do so, your attorney still requires you to pay for your own
interpreter...
so...

you're going to pay for an interpreter's services.. in order to communicate
with an attorney... to discuss how to take a doctor to court.. who won't pay
for your interpreter's services.

God Bless America.




"Michael Campbell" <mjcampbell@erols.com.remove> wrote in message
news:3ca3bbd4.1584498@news.rcn.com...
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 03:07:08 GMT, mjcampbell@erols.com.remove (Michael
> Campbell) wrote:
>
> >
> >It seems many doctors in the Northern Virginia area, especially in the
> >whole USA, are violating ADA laws by refusing requests for sign
> >language interpreter. All they think of is money, not patients and
> >their needs. I ran into four of of them already, and I'm looking for
> >an attorney. Do you know of a good lawyer that specializes in ADA in
> >the Northern Virginia area?
>
> Now that I've found an attorney who specializes in ADA.... next step
> is to request an interpreter... they won't provide an interpreter...
> duh... they, like the doctor, expect me to bring my interpreter...
> yeah, right.... they specialize in ADA, yet they refuse to provide
> interpreter... what an ironic twist...
>
> What good is ADA when you can't communicate with an attorney?
>
> There's only one signing attorney in the area, but this attorney only
> serves MD and DC, not Virginia... I'm in Virginia... damn...
>
> Meanwhile, I'm filing complaints to DOJ and state attorney while I'm
> in contact with the NAD Law Center...
>

As I mentioned in the deaf-l@siu.edu listserv, doctors are not required to
hire sign language interpreters if they can communicate. Most interpreters
are not that good at medical sign language. beside, you need to write down
and your doctors should write down all those medical terminologists so you
can research it yourself. Kaiser Health have their own interpreters - if
you're willingto ait that long for an appointment and go to different
doctors each time.
Doctors are highly educated professional. Do you mean those from India,
Pakistan, China, who cannot write good English? Tough. they need to pass the
foreign doctor tests offered by the AMA.

If you insist on it, find a sign language interpreting agency like SLA, get
the name of the interpreters and give them to the business manager of the
doctor's office and tell them about IRS Form 8826 (Disabled Access Credit).
I tis people like you who don't give or tell "those ignorant idiots who
don't know deaf culture" because we don't tell them where to get the
interpreters.

Adios
Mike YAred


Michael Campbell wrote in message <3ca3b7af.522721@news.rcn.com>...
>
>Well, it depends on the doctor. Some doctors are terrible in writing.
>Some do not have any patience. Writing do take more time than
>interpreting though. And it CAN be inflexible. Its like, the words are
>put in stone.
>
>In the case of those deaf who do not have great English, or those who
>prefer sign language interpreter, they still have the legal right to
>an interpreter.
>
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:45:29 -0500, "Jim Picotte" <picotte1@msu.edu>
>wrote:
>
>>Isn't the physician able to write notes to you in English?  This would
>>satisfy the effective communication requirement of the ADA.  While not as
>>efficient as sign, it still is communication and does work.
>>
>>--
>>Jim Picotte, MSIV
>>Michigan State University
>>College of Human Medicine
>>picotte1@msu.edu
>>"Lindsey Walley" <linzwalleynospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>news:vWLo8.2245$BT6.178899@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>>> Well....under Title III of the ADA, physicians are obligated to offer
>>means
>>> of effective communication, including translators and appropriate
>>auxiliary
>>> aids.  The physician can NOT legally pass on that cost to the patient,
>>even
>>> if the cost of the aid exceeds what the patient pays for the visit.
It's
>>> considered part of the annual overhead.
>>>
>>> As you point out....the list can certainly get distorted, and where the
>>> lines end, legally, is bound to get fuzzy....
>>>
>>> Peace~
>>> Lindsey
>>>
>>> "Rodney Wines" <rodney_usenet@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3ca361c2$0$8885$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-02.noos.net...
>>> > > And you want me to pay for their trouble? You're a big asshole.
>>> >
>>> > Hey, yeah! Give 'em hell, Mike!!! Sue the bastards!
>>> >
>>> > While you're sticking it to 'em, don't forget the other "special
needs"
>>> > people out there.  You mustn't be selfish like those sleazy doctors
>>you're
>>> > suing, right?
>>> >
>>> > I don't see well enough to drive, so obviously a doctor should provide
>>> > transportation for me while s/he is providing an interpreter for you!
>>What
>>> > about non-English speakers? Let's see, the two most common "second
>>> > languages" in the US are Spanish and Ebonics.  Any decent doctor
should
>>> > provide interpreters for those at least.  But, French and German are
>>> common,
>>> > and don't forget all the Vietnamese who've immigrated.  There are
quite
>>a
>>> > few Chinese as well.
>>> >
>>> > But, what about physical accomodations? There should be smaller chairs
>>in
>>> > the waiting rooms for the vertically challenged, wider chairs for the
>>> > calorically gifted, and the office should be open late for the
>>insomniacs.
>>> > There should always be food available for the diabetics.  Surely I've
>>> > forgotten somebody.  Oh, yes, the doctor should be responsible for
>>calling
>>> > Alzheimer patients so they don't forget their appointments.
>>> >
>>> > You go get 'em, guy, and when you're done America will be a great
place
>>> for
>>> > medical care for all of us no matter what "challenge" we might have!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:38:07 -0500, "Michael Yared" <myared@erols.com>
wrote:

>As I mentioned in the deaf-l@siu.edu listserv, doctors are not required to
>hire sign language interpreters if they can communicate. Most interpreters
>are not that good at medical sign language. beside, you need to write down
>and your doctors should write down all those medical terminologists so you
>can research it yourself. 

I have keen memory, and I can remember every words the doctor say. The
interpreter usually spells out the word if they don't know the word,
or they ask the doctor how to spell it out, so, I don't have problem
with that. Also, the hospital gives me a lengthy, clear instructional
note whenever I leave the hospital.

>Kaiser Health have their own interpreters - if
>you're willingto ait that long for an appointment and go to different
>doctors each time.
>Doctors are highly educated professional. Do you mean those from India,
>Pakistan, China, who cannot write good English? Tough. they need to pass the
>foreign doctor tests offered by the AMA.
>
>If you insist on it, find a sign language interpreting agency like SLA, get
>the name of the interpreters and give them to the business manager of the
>doctor's office and tell them about IRS Form 8826 (Disabled Access Credit).
>I tis people like you who don't give or tell "those ignorant idiots who
>don't know deaf culture" because we don't tell them where to get the
>interpreters.
>
>Adios
>Mike YAred

The tax credit is spelled out in the link mentioned in my previous
post in this thread:

http://www.nad.org/infocenter/infotogo/legal/ada3qa.html
http://www.nad.org/infocenter/infotogo/legal/doctors.html

I fax these memos to doctor after they refuse my request.

Even if I told them about the tax credit, still some doctors don't
care.....