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In article <1992Aug4.073503.13273@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:
> In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3175041@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
> >In article <15bmmqINNlqt@agate.berkeley.edu> dan@barkley.berkeley.edu (dan graves) writes:
>
> >>   They even abstained from retailiating against their
> >>   enemies when their citizens were murdered by rocket
> >>   attacks, just because we asked them to.  I would
> >>   call this very steadfast.
> >
> >Don't kid yourself, Israel was not motivated by mere alliance with the
> >US.
> >With the density of sorties the Coalition forces were sending over
> >Iraq, Israel realized that it just didn't make sense to send any of
> >their planes into harm's way.  Either military sense (they couldn't
> >have destroyed a significant number of Scud launchers) or political
>
> I don't believe that they couldn't have destroyed more Scud launchers,
> Israels Air Force is reputed to be one of the best.  Also, they could
> have concentrated all their efforts on the Scuds while the other forces
> had the entire Iraq to bomb.
>

Isreal was NOT given radio/radar security codes to participate in
air warfare.  With all the planes in the sky at the time, any
Isreali planes would have been identified as enemy and shot down
in a heartbeat.


> >(they couldn't have added significantly to the destruction of Iraq,
> >hence wouldn't have scared Iraq at all).
> >All they could accomplish was to make Iraq hate Israel even more, or
> >to risk the chance that Iraq (or another Coalition country) would down
> >an Israeli plane.  Israel would have been shooting themselves in the
> >foot to launch an attack against Iraq.
>
> So people shouldn't protect themselves from an aggressor because he may
> hate them more ?
>

A more likely scenario would have been a covert action aimed directly at
the assasination of Saddam.  If anyone could have done THAT, it is the
Isrealis.

> >If you want concrete and potentially dangerous action as proof of
> >alliance, then ask Israel to give the West Bank to an independent
> >Palestine.
>
> Why should Israel give up the territory now ?  What will they get in
> return ?  So far, the people who intend to run Palestine have been
> intent on killing Jews.  How do we know it would stop ?
>

The PLO rejected the part of their charter that calls for the destruction
of Isreal.  In fact, the PLO officially recognizes the state of Isreal
and the UN resolution of 1948.  These changes are sufficient to at least
warrant discussion with them at the peace table.

> >Surely you jest.  There is more than enough hatred in Israeli politics.
> >There is considerable evidence that conquest of Arab territories was a
> >goal of the 1948 war of independence.
>

Hogwash.  What considerable evidence?

> Mark

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