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Tim Campbell wrote:
> Junk Food Nation: Who's to Blame for Childhood Obesity?
> By Gary Ruskin and Juliet Schor
> The Nation
> 
> 29 August 2005 Issue

Ho, hum. I've been writing about that for longer than I can remember:

Newsgroups: soc.support.fat-acceptance, misc.consumers,
rec.travel.air, rec.travel.cruises
From: Icono Clast
Sat,May 22 2004 1:40 am

A few posts on fat, obesity, nutrition, and health from 2004-04-27 to
1998/05/29. They'll eventually be a page at the site at Right in the
sig.

 From my 2004-04-27 report on rec.travel.cruises

FAT
I don't know whether fat people have a tendency to go on cruises or
people who go on cruises have a tendency to be fat. Whichever, the
proportion of fat people on this ship was extra�rdinarily high when
compared with what one usually sees in Coastal USA.

***

Subject: Re: Stay in LA
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada
Date: 2003-01-31 01:01:20 PST

"Paul Tauger" <ptaugerspamt...@cox.net> wrote:
> I have a photographic package that, I expect far exceeds 5 kilos,
> and doesn't fit in a shoulder bag.

> The solution is simple: I have a . . . backpack, which is a very
> comfortable way to carry all this stuff

Good luck on your back's future health. I hope you're at least in
your fifties and your skeleton is well developed.

Were it up to me, persons under age 18 would be prohibited from
carrying anything on their backs for longer than a minute or two. I
cringe at the future of the backs-burdened children I see on the
streets. O how they'll suffer! The fat ones, though, probably won't
live long enough for their mis-treated backs to bother them.

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Subject: Teach them to not ingest junk
Newsgroups: alt.california
Date: 2002-08-28 02:54:15 PST

I come to praise the Los Angeles School Board for electing to pull
soda beverages from its schools. I've never understood why schools
permitted their students to have access to such unhealthful beverages
on school premises thus teaching them that they're OK. I hope that
they'll pull all high salt, high sugar, and high fat foods from the
schools and serve only healthful, well-balanced meals to the growing
bodies in their care.

***

Subject: Re: Ridiculous dining experience 2
Newsgroups: ba.food
Date: 1999/10/11

geo...@netcom.com (Geoff Miller) wrote:
> Icono Clast <ICl...@JPS.Net> writes:
>> I think it's unconscionable for schools to sell sodas and other
>> beverages and foods that are commonly known to be either 
>> unhealthful or of no nutritional value. If they want junk food,
>> they can leave the campus to visit the corner grocery.

> Why does every single thing a kid puts into his mouth have to be 
> actively nutritious?

Water isn't nutritious but it's clearly more healthful than a soda or
coffee.

> Making sure a kid gets proper nutrition is his parents' 
> responsibility. If he eats well at home, then clearly a soda or
> roll of SweeTarts at school isn't going to do any harm.

Schools are places of learning. By the unavailability of
unhealthful or non-nutritious foods, one can learn what to not eat.

>> If they want junk food, they can leave the campus to visit the 
>> corner grocery.

> And how many schools have open campuses these days?

Irrelevant. If the student knows the campus is closed, junk foods can
be acquired from a negligent parent or from a grocery store on the
way to school. I'm saying the schools shouldn't make it available.

If you, as I, spent any time in amusement parks, you'd probably be as
shocked as I by the bodies of today's youth. So many of them are
grotesquely fat slobs that we won't have to worry about them
collecting Social Security or their union pensions.

I, by the way, am getting heavy. But I'm old. Although healthy, I'm
gaining weight in spite of a generally healthful diet and am very
unhappy about it. My problem is an enormous appetite for all that
good healthful food. Yes, I eat junk food, high-fat, -salt, and
-sugar foods too, but it's rare. Gorged on that stuff this week-end
while at a dance convention but probably sweat most of it off. Well,
I hope I did.

***

A response:
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Date: 1999/08/27

Icono Clast said:
>> The picture I've seen . . . is of a quite normal-looking, 
>> although frightfully-fat (that could be the result of parental
>> feeding abuse) boy.

Skip Smith alleged:
> Funny....Fat bashing is still socially acceptable.

An observation and a bash are not the same thing.

> Make fun of a . . . Fat person? People agree with you...

I did not make fun of the boy. In fact, by calling him "frightfully
fat" I was sympathizing with him and the probable feeding abuse by
his mother.

>> Considering the grotesquely fat woman claiming to be the boy's
>> mother, perhaps his frightful flab is the result of a genetic
>> pre-disposition.

Once again I was neither bashing nor making fun of them. I observed
the woman to be grotesquely fat. Perhaps your observation differs
from mine. Perhaps your opinion of her appearance differs from mine.
I even gave her a way out of my food abuse charge by speculating that
"perhaps [the boy's] frightful flab is the result of a genetic
pre-disposition".

> Totally off topic...

Yes, if all you want to talk about is fat but that wasn't the subject
of the original post. It is you who has created the off-topic Thread.

***

 From my 1998/12/13 report on rec.travel.cruises

The proportion of fat people was shockingly high. Although I
didn't count, my guess is that at least 40% of the passengers were
enough overweight to be unhealthy.

***

 From my 1998/05/29 report on rec.roller-coaster

FAT:
Waiting in amusement park lines can be tedious and looking at
others in the same situation is one of the most interesting things to
do. It didn't take me long to notice how fat the people were, so fat,
in fact, that I started to count them. It seems that every time I
counted, a third of the people I counted was fat. No, I don't mean
merely overweight and I didn't count beer bellies, either, but real
fat people, most of them quite young. Many of them also smoke
cigarettes. It's sad. Their lives will probably be very short.
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