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Re: SCHOOL VOUCHERS -- Case for California Prop 174

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From: Tim Langlois
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:40
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In article <1993Nov10.140607.3557@cc.usu.edu>,
 <erik@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu > wrote:
>
>In article <gdavis.752891047@griffin> gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis) writes:
>>There are so many good reasons to give the voucher system a chance that it
>>is hard to believe what vested or selfish interests one would need to attempt
>>to defeat it.
>
>	the only problem I have with a voucher system is how will we protect the
>"average" kids from being warehoused.  It appears that nobody is talking about
>capitolism here.
>
>	You live in a school district with 5000 students, and 5 schools.
>	School A has room for 1000 students.  It is by far the best school in the
>neighborhood (a computer for each student, the best teachers, whatever).  
>*EVERYONE* wants their child to go to this school.  Clearly it can't accept 5000
>students...so either:
>	a.) they take the top 1000 students, giving them a wonderful education
>		hey, if you kid can't pass the Entrance exam, or doesn't have
>		the grades...tuff.
>	b.) they raise their prices (so only the 'rich' can afford it...now they
>		have EVEN more money...and they can hire even better teachers, 
>		get better resources, etc)
>  
>	now, we can probably assume that this isn't a *bad* thing.  at least 
>1/5th the students will get a good education.  In a sense this is how colleges
>work.  But in a college environment, students can move to go to school where they
>want.  not all school (like existing public schools), can house students like
>colleges can.
>
>	now, we can assume that no matter how 4 of the schools spit up the students
>there will always be some students who will be left out.  So, lets say the 
>"worst" school in this system decides not to provide *any* education (they have a 
>captive audience -- ie the students who couldn't get into the other 4, because of
>either grades, or money).  This last school just warehouses students for money.
>
>	I suppose we could require that schools *must* accept any student who
>wants to go to school there.  (much the way public schools must accept students)
>but if you do that, then the 'good' schools will get overcrowded, and filled with
>the same problem students that are in the public schools...so you have no net
>gain.  

Not to get off track here, but I interpreted that last statement as saying
that only the public schools have the problem students.  My whole education
was in the public school system.  There was a private school down the road
(which my parents could have afforded), but if you wanted a quality education,
you went to the public school.  The private school was full of middle and
upper class students and had a much greater  drug and violence problem than 
the county public school system.  The private school had much more money than
the county school system, yet the public school constantly out-performed the
private school system (i.e. in average test scores, college graduates, etc).

Forgive me if I misinterpreted what you were saying, but I believe the public
school system has been given a bad rap.

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Optimization  Technology  Inc.       Tim Langlois (langlois@oti-hsv.com)
Huntsville, AL, (205) 721-1288	     Software Engineer
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Subject: Re: SCHOOL VOUCHERS -- Case for California Prop 174
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