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Article #1171Re: SCHOOL VOUCHERS -- Case for California Prop 174
From: Tim Langlois
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:40
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:40
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In article <1993Nov10.140607.3557@cc.usu.edu>, <erik@acspr1.acs.brockport.edu > wrote: > >In article <gdavis.752891047@griffin> gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu (Gary Davis) writes: >>There are so many good reasons to give the voucher system a chance that it >>is hard to believe what vested or selfish interests one would need to attempt >>to defeat it. > > the only problem I have with a voucher system is how will we protect the >"average" kids from being warehoused. It appears that nobody is talking about >capitolism here. > > You live in a school district with 5000 students, and 5 schools. > School A has room for 1000 students. It is by far the best school in the >neighborhood (a computer for each student, the best teachers, whatever). >*EVERYONE* wants their child to go to this school. Clearly it can't accept 5000 >students...so either: > a.) they take the top 1000 students, giving them a wonderful education > hey, if you kid can't pass the Entrance exam, or doesn't have > the grades...tuff. > b.) they raise their prices (so only the 'rich' can afford it...now they > have EVEN more money...and they can hire even better teachers, > get better resources, etc) > > now, we can probably assume that this isn't a *bad* thing. at least >1/5th the students will get a good education. In a sense this is how colleges >work. But in a college environment, students can move to go to school where they >want. not all school (like existing public schools), can house students like >colleges can. > > now, we can assume that no matter how 4 of the schools spit up the students >there will always be some students who will be left out. So, lets say the >"worst" school in this system decides not to provide *any* education (they have a >captive audience -- ie the students who couldn't get into the other 4, because of >either grades, or money). This last school just warehouses students for money. > > I suppose we could require that schools *must* accept any student who >wants to go to school there. (much the way public schools must accept students) >but if you do that, then the 'good' schools will get overcrowded, and filled with >the same problem students that are in the public schools...so you have no net >gain. Not to get off track here, but I interpreted that last statement as saying that only the public schools have the problem students. My whole education was in the public school system. There was a private school down the road (which my parents could have afforded), but if you wanted a quality education, you went to the public school. The private school was full of middle and upper class students and had a much greater drug and violence problem than the county public school system. The private school had much more money than the county school system, yet the public school constantly out-performed the private school system (i.e. in average test scores, college graduates, etc). Forgive me if I misinterpreted what you were saying, but I believe the public school system has been given a bad rap. -- Optimization Technology Inc. Tim Langlois (langlois@oti-hsv.com) Huntsville, AL, (205) 721-1288 Software Engineer
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