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Article #1340Re: Incredible: German Peace March makes top TV commentators think!
From: Wolfgang Strobl
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 1991 21:26
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 1991 21:26
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horne@sapphire.idbsu.edu (cs354- Broward Horne) writes:
>In article <jonesra.665375716@copper> jonesra@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (rex jones) writes:
>>
>>And I say that it's not worth killing over. We've had 18 years since the
>
>>'73 oil shock to start to waean ourselves from oil. We haven't. Now,
>>we're killing for it. If there are principles involved, they are 'The US
>>needs that oil now, because we were stupid back then (sorta like our
>>policy toward dictators and other international thugs, doesn't it?), and
>>we're gonna kill you for it. Sorry, Buds.'
>>
>>jonesra@copper.ucs.indiana.edu -- Standard disclaimers apply....
> Fine, then quit driving your car, NOW. And hand over your job.
> Whining about what SHOULD HAVE BEEN is pointless in this context.
While I do not understand why I should hand over my job, your first idea
is not as foolish as you may think it sounds.
The current transportation system based on cars is not only destroying
our environment, but the cause of much of the current greediness for
oil, too - you correctly imply that. This must and can be changed.
I cannot talk for others, but if you ask ME about what I did, you might
not get the answer you expect. Yes, my family and I reduced car usage
during the last few years. We now think about sharing our car with
another family, just to get the car moved now and then. We are as active
as before - in fact, with a combination of enough bicycles and train
usage you are more mobile in the heavy populated Germany than with
a car.
Burning oil in cars is a big waste.
>
> You're absolutely right. We should have reduced our dependence.
> FACT: WE DIDN'T.
You should start now, then. Stopping this unnecessary war would be a
very good start. I couldn't think of a better incentive.
> We shouldn't have supported Hussein
> FACT: Welcome the REAL, PRAGMATIC WORLD!
Perhaps it is my bad English, but I don't understand what you mean. Would
you care to explain
- what the second line has to do with the first line, and
- why you label a salutation with the attribute "fact" in the
second line?
> FACT: We ARE dependent on oil.
You have said that before.
[further repetitions deleted]
Whining about what should have been is pointless, if you are unable
to learn from what has been, as you obviously are. May I ask what you
suggest to do about the dependency on oil? Or is it simply
FACT: We WILL BE dependent on oil forever ?
It must be nice to live in such a simple universe indeed.
Wolfgang Strobl
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