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Re: Incredible: German Peace March makes top TV commentators think!

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From: Bernd Sluka
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 1991 09:43
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In article <1991Jan28.164745.18240@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
  crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>
>     This is no video game, this is deadly serious, and all of our
>     military and policy makers know it.  Strangely enough, it seems
>     that many of the anti-war demonstrators do not think that
>     the whole situation is very serious.

Sure, I do. That's why I am demonstrating against war.

>     Also, it is pretty easy to be anti-war when you have been protected for
>     the last 45 years and do not have to shoulder any responsibility
>     for this action since the good old Americans and British are
>     ponying up once again.  Germany has dissapointed me very much
>     by even trying to whine out of their NATO commitment to Turkey.
>     It seems that treaty obligations mean to Germany only gimmee, 
>     gimmee, gimmee.

We have a sentence in our constitution (which existed for more than 40 years),
that reads: "The state will build up troups for defence."
I'm proud of this sentence.

This means, that if the USA begins a war, and you did because there existed
other ways to get the dammned Saddam out of Kuwait, and the US started fighting
from Turkey (Nato), that the Bundeswehr is not *allowed* by law to join.
The US airfoce beginning fighting from Turkey, whatever the reasons and whoever
"allowed" this, made every action from there against the Iraq not a *defence*
action.

>     Gee, I seem to remember exactly how effective the anti-war effort
>     has been at keeping soviet troops out of the baltic states and
>     keeping iraqi troops out of kuwait.

The US gouvernement has never taken serious actions to avoid this war.
And you cannot expect a economic blocade to have success, if it only lasts
for 4 months. But the blocade began to succed. If we would have waited for
20 months...

>     I wonder how anti-war you 
>     would be if America immediately withdrew from NATO prior to the roughly
>     300,000 russian soldiers being withdrawn from the east.  You'd
>     have to rely on the good will of the soviet army, good luck.

I would. I think US troups should leave Germany, as the Soviet army does.

>     Coalition forces are involved in an anti-war effort.  Fortunately,
>     some can see that sometimes in order to defend the peace, you must
>     wage war.

No. In beginning a war you are negating peace, not defending it.

>     I sincerely hope that this is not a majority opinion in the Federal
>     Republic.  Otherwise, I would suggest ...

I don't know. It looks like a minority opinion in our gouvernement and
parliament. But the opposition is on my side.
--
Bernd Sluka
Department of Mathematics
and Computer Science                  What would be, if
University of Passau
DW-8390 Passau                        Kuwait's main export product
sluka@stoch.fmi.uni-passau.de         would have been broccoli ???
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Subject: Re: Incredible: German Peace March makes top TV commentators think!
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