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Article #1347Re: Incredible: German Peace March makes top TV commentators think!
From: Bernd Sluka
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 1991 09:43
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 1991 09:43
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In article <1991Jan28.164745.18240@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes: > > This is no video game, this is deadly serious, and all of our > military and policy makers know it. Strangely enough, it seems > that many of the anti-war demonstrators do not think that > the whole situation is very serious. Sure, I do. That's why I am demonstrating against war. > Also, it is pretty easy to be anti-war when you have been protected for > the last 45 years and do not have to shoulder any responsibility > for this action since the good old Americans and British are > ponying up once again. Germany has dissapointed me very much > by even trying to whine out of their NATO commitment to Turkey. > It seems that treaty obligations mean to Germany only gimmee, > gimmee, gimmee. We have a sentence in our constitution (which existed for more than 40 years), that reads: "The state will build up troups for defence." I'm proud of this sentence. This means, that if the USA begins a war, and you did because there existed other ways to get the dammned Saddam out of Kuwait, and the US started fighting from Turkey (Nato), that the Bundeswehr is not *allowed* by law to join. The US airfoce beginning fighting from Turkey, whatever the reasons and whoever "allowed" this, made every action from there against the Iraq not a *defence* action. > Gee, I seem to remember exactly how effective the anti-war effort > has been at keeping soviet troops out of the baltic states and > keeping iraqi troops out of kuwait. The US gouvernement has never taken serious actions to avoid this war. And you cannot expect a economic blocade to have success, if it only lasts for 4 months. But the blocade began to succed. If we would have waited for 20 months... > I wonder how anti-war you > would be if America immediately withdrew from NATO prior to the roughly > 300,000 russian soldiers being withdrawn from the east. You'd > have to rely on the good will of the soviet army, good luck. I would. I think US troups should leave Germany, as the Soviet army does. > Coalition forces are involved in an anti-war effort. Fortunately, > some can see that sometimes in order to defend the peace, you must > wage war. No. In beginning a war you are negating peace, not defending it. > I sincerely hope that this is not a majority opinion in the Federal > Republic. Otherwise, I would suggest ... I don't know. It looks like a minority opinion in our gouvernement and parliament. But the opposition is on my side. -- Bernd Sluka Department of Mathematics and Computer Science What would be, if University of Passau DW-8390 Passau Kuwait's main export product sluka@stoch.fmi.uni-passau.de would have been broccoli ???
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