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Article #1501Re: Overwhelming Firepower is Bad doctrine
From: DeadMeat
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:13
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:13
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"Dharmananda" <Nil@neph.net> wrote in message news:1150788.47SoKA9ajK@news.verizon.net... > remove underscore wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:47:57 GMT, Dharmananda <Nil@neph.net> wrote: > > > >>DeadMeat wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I understand what Overwhelming Firepower is. That's where a bomb is > >>> dropped on a house housing your enemy. Or where you have the troops > >>> come in behind a couple or three M-1s that blow the 2nd floor, 3rd, 4th, > >>> and fifth window on the 2nd and third floor completely away. Hell, kid, > >>> it's done all the time and it saves lives on the US side. If you > >>> overkill it then it's still dead and you lost NO people in the first > >>> place. If you underkill it your ground troops are going to get some > >>> pretty nasty surprises. > >>> > >> > >>That makes sense. But then why is it, pray tell, that one of the other > >>military geniuses on this thread assures me, on the basis of war blogs, > >>that this doctrine, i.e., overwhelming firepower, is outdated? > > > > Because this is an example of attrition warfare. Something that is > > avoided by military professionals. > > > > I've noticed. Then why pray tell, has the use of overwhelming firepower > resulted in a condition of attrition warfare throughout the Sunni Triangle, > if not that it is Bad Doctrine? Hmmmmmmmm? > > (In the Pacific Theatre, we call it Bad Rice, FYI) > > Engage brain before flaunting incredible stupidity, and (please forgive me > for descending to the vernacular, it SO disgusts me, but I do it): Attrition is where there are a finite number of enemy. You kill them and then there are none. You kill them faster than they can regenerate. At some point, there becomes a diminishing returns. At that point, the uprising is pretty well spent. It's a good doctrine but hasn't worked because the troops have not been able to practice it in the areas that the Insurgents kept running to hide. You HAVE to take it home to them in order for it to work.
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