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Article #1533Re: Overwhelming Firepower is Bad doctrine
From: Colin Campbell
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:33
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:33
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:14:29 GMT, Dharmananda <Nil@neph.net> wrote: > >It inevitably results in civilian casualties, and the US has just >perpetrated a major humanitariian disaster, if not genocide in al Fallujah, >by means of this perfectly atrocious and dysfunctional doctrine. Ok. Support this claim. How many civilians have died in Falluja? And could any other army have taken the city with fewer civilian casualties? > >All of the above is obvious, to the point that it is almost trivial to even >write it, but also consider this: No. It is not obvious. It is nothing more than hype and propaganda. > >Originally it was thought that the rebel stronghold in al Fallujah was in >the Jolan district, in the NW sector, right to the east of the Euphrates. The enemy sure thought so. But they got a big surprise when we pushed them out. >But, surprize, surprize, it was actually in the south. In the last few >days, in southern Fallujah, they discovered an elaborated underground >warren some 300 m X 500 m, "stocked with medical supplies." Their >response? To bomb the thing to oblivion, with four one-ton bombs. >Brilliant, guys. That sure taught them a lesson, huh? So you are an expert in tactics now? And you are privy to what the US Army knew and did not know about Falluja? > >Well, the jury is still out on that one, but I question the swiftitude of >disappearing the best evidence we had that the attack on al Fallujah was >justified in the first place. IMO, they should have cordoned the place >off, posted guards around it, and gone about the rest of their business, >until the inhabitants of the warren either starved or came out with their >hands up. Oh - that is a great one. So you endorse the starvation of civilians? Instead of shooting enemy combatants you want to starve civilians (do you think for one second that the enemy would have shared food with the civilians? BTW: You haven't a distant clue what you're talking about. In fact, you couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season if you stood in the middle of a field of horny clues, smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance.
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