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"Colin Campbell" <activated95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote in
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> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:14:29 GMT, Dharmananda <Nil@neph.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >It inevitably results in civilian casualties, and the US has just
> >perpetrated a major humanitariian disaster, if not genocide in al
Fallujah,
> >by means of this perfectly atrocious and dysfunctional doctrine.
>
> Ok.  Support this claim.  How many civilians have died in Falluja?

Although he is a fruitcake, you are the icing.  There HAVE been and will be
civilian casualties.  Not all civilians left the town and some were, are and
will be caught up in the fighting.  These folks will be killed, maimed, etc.
by both sides.  Not all have the luxury or the good sense to leave.

Now, can you prove how few?  It amounts to the same as you demanding him to
provide how many.


>
> And could any other army have taken the city with fewer civilian
> casualties?


Sure can.  Check out the puss for the Mosul in the latter days.


>
> >
> >All of the above is obvious, to the point that it is almost trivial to
even
> >write it, but also consider this:
>
> No.  It is not obvious.  It is nothing more than hype and propaganda.

Like what you post, not all is the complete truth.  The Left and the Right,
both expressing their views is hardly 100% correct.


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>
> >
> >Originally it was thought that the rebel stronghold in al Fallujah was in
> >the Jolan district, in the NW sector, right to the east of the Euphrates.
>
> The enemy sure thought so.  But they got a big surprise when we pushed
> them out.

What you mean "WE" paleface.  By the virtue of you posting in here, you
aren't there.  And don't give the BS about how it's ALL made available to
everyone everywhere.  There are at least a thousand reasons why the troops
in this particular hotspot won't be posting on the Usenets.


>
>
> >But, surprize, surprize, it was actually in the south.  In the last few
> >days, in southern Fallujah, they discovered an elaborated underground
> >warren some 300 m X 500 m, "stocked with medical supplies."  Their
> >response?  To bomb the thing to oblivion, with four one-ton bombs.
> >Brilliant, guys.  That sure taught them a lesson, huh?
>
> So you are an expert in tactics now?
>
> And you are privy to what the US Army knew and did not know about
> Falluja?

He's spouting BS and you haven't done a thing to expel it.  Since you aren't
privy to that information either, quess it's your opinion against his.


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>
> >
> >Well, the jury is still out on that one, but I question the swiftitude of
> >disappearing the best evidence we had that the attack on al Fallujah was
> >justified in the first place.  IMO, they should have cordoned the place
> >off, posted guards around it, and gone about the rest of their business,
> >until the inhabitants of the warren either starved or came out with their
> >hands up.
>
> Oh - that is a great one.  So you endorse the starvation of civilians?
>
> Instead of shooting enemy combatants you want to starve civilians (do
> you think for one second that the enemy would have shared food with
> the civilians?

It is a bit late for any type of Military Blockade.  I held long ago that a
good old fashioned "Serious" Military Blockade would have been more
affective than the actual war.  And much more humane.