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Article #1541Re: Overwhelming Firepower is Bad doctrine
From: Mike P
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:10
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:10
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"DeadMeat" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:cnaphm$4od$1@news.chatlink.com... > > "Colin Campbell" <activated95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote in > message news:40qgp0d4bmfbm15a57hh61mvl7i005mb6p@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:14:29 GMT, Dharmananda <Nil@neph.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >It inevitably results in civilian casualties, and the US has just >> >perpetrated a major humanitariian disaster, if not genocide in al > Fallujah, >> >by means of this perfectly atrocious and dysfunctional doctrine. >> >> Ok. Support this claim. How many civilians have died in Falluja? > > Although he is a fruitcake, you are the icing. There HAVE been and will > be > civilian casualties. Not all civilians left the town and some were, are > and > will be caught up in the fighting. These folks will be killed, maimed, > etc. > by both sides. Not all have the luxury or the good sense to leave. > > Now, can you prove how few? It amounts to the same as you demanding him > to > provide how many. > > >> >> And could any other army have taken the city with fewer civilian >> casualties? > > > Sure can. Check out the puss for the Mosul in the latter days. > > >> >> > >> >All of the above is obvious, to the point that it is almost trivial to > even >> >write it, but also consider this: >> >> No. It is not obvious. It is nothing more than hype and propaganda. > > Like what you post, not all is the complete truth. The Left and the > Right, > both expressing their views is hardly 100% correct. > > >> >> >> > >> >Originally it was thought that the rebel stronghold in al Fallujah was >> >in >> >the Jolan district, in the NW sector, right to the east of the >> >Euphrates. >> >> The enemy sure thought so. But they got a big surprise when we pushed >> them out. > > What you mean "WE" paleface. By the virtue of you posting in here, you > aren't there. And don't give the BS about how it's ALL made available to > everyone everywhere. There are at least a thousand reasons why the troops > in this particular hotspot won't be posting on the Usenets. > > >> >> >> >But, surprize, surprize, it was actually in the south. In the last few >> >days, in southern Fallujah, they discovered an elaborated underground >> >warren some 300 m X 500 m, "stocked with medical supplies." Their >> >response? To bomb the thing to oblivion, with four one-ton bombs. >> >Brilliant, guys. That sure taught them a lesson, huh? >> >> So you are an expert in tactics now? >> >> And you are privy to what the US Army knew and did not know about >> Falluja? > > He's spouting BS and you haven't done a thing to expel it. Since you > aren't > privy to that information either, quess it's your opinion against his. > > >> >> >> > >> >Well, the jury is still out on that one, but I question the swiftitude >> >of >> >disappearing the best evidence we had that the attack on al Fallujah was >> >justified in the first place. IMO, they should have cordoned the place >> >off, posted guards around it, and gone about the rest of their business, >> >until the inhabitants of the warren either starved or came out with >> >their >> >hands up. >> >> Oh - that is a great one. So you endorse the starvation of civilians? >> >> Instead of shooting enemy combatants you want to starve civilians (do >> you think for one second that the enemy would have shared food with >> the civilians? > > It is a bit late for any type of Military Blockade. I held long ago that > a > good old fashioned "Serious" Military Blockade would have been more > affective than the actual war. And much more humane. > Once again we hear from a Military Imposter that knows nothing about the Military. Tell us daryl why does DoD list you as getting out as an E-4 (QMP). Then you claiming you are Air Force Retired as well as Navy Intel. How many people have you suckered into buying your service or used equipment you sell? Tell us once caught you went to Military.com, and set up an account saying you are retired? Yes right above where it shows daryl hunt with DoD as an E-4 it shows you with members saying your retired. Why is it you can't back anything up yet you want everyone else to do so? Why is it in every claim you have made to include going to Jump School at Fort Bragg while drunk you have been shot down, and still you make a fool out of yourself? Mike I own you fake boy, and you wait on me.
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