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In article <1992Aug5.022141.14622@newstand.syr.edu> greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield) writes:
=>In article <24469@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
=>>In article <1992Aug4.042929.1433@ddsw1.mcs.com> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
=>>=>
=>>=>International law is very specific on this point.  Torture in any form is 
=>>=>NOT PERMITTED
=>>
=>>I hope you'll explain this to the Salvadorans who were tortured by US
=>>"advisors" during the 70's and 80's (and, who knows, the 90's)
=>
=>So what is your point?  That two wrongs make a right?

Obviously not. The point is to question why Karl was getting so excited about
torturers around the world when good ol' Americans are doing the same thing
less than a day's drive from Brownsville.

=>(And frankly, I sincerely doubt that US "advisors" were directly involved
=>in torturing Salvadorans, though I have no doubt that they gave aid and
=>comfort to those who were.)

You may doubt what you wish, but the testimony of those tortured is that it
was done by US advisors.

=>>=>Again I ask: where are the UN sanctions and resolutions?  Why does the US 
=>>=>support these Israeli terrorists (yes, folks, people who employ torture ARE 
=>>=>terrorists) and their government?  It is high time that we, as a purported 
=>>=>world leader in human rights, call a spade a spade and refuse to support 
=>>=>or assist >ANY< government ANYWHERE that condones or permits these 
=>>=>"investigative" tactics.
=>>
=>>Admirable, Karl, but slightly naive.
=>
=>How so?

Naive because the US is not anything like a world leader in human rights, and
will not be, as long as it continues to engage in practices that most civilised
countries have long since repudiated, such as the execution of the insane and
minors.

=>Yes, it's true that there are many, many other examples of similarly atrocious
=>behavior by the UN.  So, we can "call a spade a spade" and recognize that
=>the UN is just a bad political joke, now used to convince unwitting souls
=>that there is some kind of legitimacy in various unilateral (note, one side
=>does not necessarily imply one country) actions.

Do you mean "UN" here? Or "US"



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-Jeremy Henderson        egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk   

"Il ne faut pas confondre forme de l'univers et vert de l'uniforme"