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Article #184Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.
From: Jake Livni
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1992 21:17
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1992 21:17
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[Eggert claims that Israel has been spying "extensively" on the US, without producing any form of evidence.] >In article <1992Aug4.000830.17644@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes: >> How do you know about stuff that hasn't been discovered or revealed? >> If you know about it and haven't informed the US government, you're >> guilty of spying. If you don't know about it, you're just a common >> liar, like certain other anti-semites I could mention. In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3235230@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes: >I seem to have touched a nerve here. It is not a lie that the Pollard >case _by itself_ constitutes significant Israeli spying in the US. >And how can you claim (which you did implicitly by calling me a liar) >that there is and has been no other Israeli spying in the US? That >assumption seems pretty naive. Firstly, Pollard only gave the Israelis information that the US had already agreed to share with Israel in an agreement that Reagan/Weinberger reneged on. This, by itself, does not constitute significant nor extensive spying. Secondly, seeing as there are about 100 times as many Americans as there are Israelis, we might assume that there are 100 times as many American spies as Israeli spies. Unless the Mossad is incompetent (and I haven't heard anyone suggest that one yet), there should be whole baseball teams of Americans in Israeli prisons. Or is your peddling of naive assumptions selective, depending on whose argument it supports? -- Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Pat Paulsen for President American-Occupied New York This year he has a real chance! My opinions only - employer has no opinions.
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Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tcsi.com!iat.holonet.net!uupsi!psinntp!bony1!jake From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) Subject: Re: Schmidling is simply wrong. Message-ID: <1992Aug5.211736.12790@bony1.bony.com> Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department References: <EGGERTJ.92Aug3182009@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> <1992Aug4.000830.17644@fid.morgan.com> <EGGERTJ.92Aug3235230@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 92 21:17:36 GMT Lines: 35