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Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.

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From: Jake Livni
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1992 21:17
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[Eggert claims that Israel has been spying "extensively" on the US, 
without producing any form of evidence.]

>In article <1992Aug4.000830.17644@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:

>>   How do you know about stuff that hasn't been discovered or revealed?
>>   If you know about it and haven't informed the US government, you're
>>   guilty of spying.  If you don't know about it, you're just a common
>>   liar, like certain other anti-semites I could mention.

In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3235230@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:

>I seem to have touched a nerve here.  It is not a lie that the Pollard
>case _by itself_ constitutes significant Israeli spying in the US.
>And how can you claim (which you did implicitly by calling me a liar)
>that there is and has been no other Israeli spying in the US?  That
>assumption seems pretty naive.

Firstly, Pollard only gave the Israelis information that the US had
already agreed to share with Israel in an agreement that Reagan/Weinberger 
reneged on.  This, by itself, does not constitute significant nor 
extensive spying.

Secondly, seeing as there are about 100 times as many Americans as 
there are Israelis, we might assume that there are 100 times as many
American spies as Israeli spies.  Unless the Mossad is incompetent
(and I haven't heard anyone suggest that one yet), there should be
whole baseball teams of Americans in Israeli prisons.  Or is your 
peddling of naive assumptions selective, depending on whose argument
it supports?

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Jake Livni  jake@bony1.bony.com               Pat Paulsen for President
American-Occupied New York                    This year he has a real chance!
My opinions only - employer has no opinions.
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From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.
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