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Article #258Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.
From: Jake Livni
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 01:06
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 01:06
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In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug5135554@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes: >In article <BsIq2I.vx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> idfriedm@hertz.waterloo.edu (id friedman) writes: >> For better or worse, spying is a fact of life on friend and foe. Don't >> accuse Israel of doing what everybody ( including the U.S) does. >First, do you have any evidence that other major US allies (Britain, >France, Germany) spy on the US? The latest Information Week, August 10, 1992, states in a story on computer security and espionage: ****************** Corporate spies take many shapes, including your competitors, foes of the US government, even supposed allies. Last year, Pierre Marion, the former head of French Intelligence, admitted his country had been spying on IBM, Corning and TI for a decade. "In economics", he said, "we are competitors, not allies." ****************** If you think that the French Intelligence were only stealing unauthorized copies of OS/2 from these kinds of companies, and not militarily sensitive information (and materiel?), then you are naive. At the time of the Pollard case, one American official (I don't recall who) admitted that everyone spies against everyone else and that the US routinely spies on Israel. "You don't think that all those antennae on top of our Embassy in Tel-Aviv are there just to get the Sunday football, do you?" Remember what Reagan used to say? "Trust but verify." Spies among friendly countries get caught every once in a while and are quietly handled. In the Pollard case, Weinberger and the White House decided to make a very noisy case of it. Spying isn't unusual at all. Putting people away for life for spying among friends is. -- Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Pat Paulsen for President American-Occupied New York This year he has a real chance! My opinions only - employer has no opinions.
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Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.arabic,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!psinntp!bony1!jake From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) Subject: Re: Schmidling is simply wrong. Message-ID: <1992Aug11.010617.25956@bony1.bony.com> Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department References: <EGGERTJ.92Aug3182009@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> <BsIq2I.vx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> <EGGERTJ.92Aug5135554@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 01:06:17 GMT Lines: 40