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In article <1992Aug11.011856.26074@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>In article <dusek.713136868@shale> dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek) writes:
>
>>	The Patriots might have been over rated, but the did intercept
>>attacks. If we didn't send them we would still be hearing if from
>>you.
>
>Actually, recent information indicates that the Patriots may not have 
>intercepted a single Scud.  Talk about fog of war!

	Bullshit. I saw a Patriot intercept a Scud ON CNN during Desert
Storm, for crying out loud !!

>
>>	Really? The IDF would have wasted more time than the U.S. hunting
>>scuds. The IDF didn't have awacs and other bonuses that the U.S, had in
>>that area.
>
>Firstly, the IDF has something simlilar the E2-C (Hawkye?).  Secondly,
>had the Bush administration not been terrified of the Arab states that
>it was defending, it might have allowed Israel to join in Desert Storm,
>in which case the same AWACS that co-ordinated Saudi fighters with 
>Americans could've done the same with Israeli fighters.  The decision
>to exclude Israel was a political decision, not a military decision.

	Noted. 

	1. Israel does not conduct combined military exercises with the US
	military.

	2. To my knowledge, the US has never conducted any military operation
	together with Israel, outside the auspices of the UN peacekeeping
	forces in the Sinai and the Golan Heights/Lebanon.

	3. I don't know if Israel KNOWS HOW to conduct a cooperative
	military operation with an ally.

>
>>When a scud was launched its launcher died. Unless the IDF
>>leveled EVERY standing structure in Westren Iraq there is no way they could
>>have been more effective than the U.S.
>
>They would've flown lower and recognized the decoys.  The Americans blew
>up a lot of decoys.  Israeli air tactics, as demonstrated in the attack 
>on the Osirak nuclear reactor, are characterized by precision, not 
>by the sledgehammer approaches regularly utilized by Americans.  While
>sledgehammers make lots of sparks fly and sure do smash things up,
>they often miss the point.

	This is total hogwash. Remember the "command bunker" we hit by
mistake ? Remember General Schwarzkopf describing how we sealed off the flow
of oil into the Persian Gulf ? One shot, one hit, one kill.

	In this case, Jake's the one who misses the point.


	Bill R.

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