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In article <veal.199@utkux1.utk.edu> veal@utkux1.utk.edu (David L. Veal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.180332.492@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> bunker@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Alex Bunker) writes:
>
>>In article <archer.364@utkux1.utk.edu> archer@utkux1.utk.edu (T. Archer) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug11.145521.29060@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> bunker@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Alex Bunker) writes:
>>>

>>>>not hide it Frank can speak for himself but I will stand proud and say
>>>>I AM IN FAVOR OF WORLD GOVERNMENT AND I REFUSE TO FEEL ANY ALLEGENCE TO
>>>>ANY SUBUNIT OF THE WHOLE COMMONLY KNOWN AS A COUNTRY!!!!
>>>>Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
>>>>I can just see the parochial nationalists and "patriots" fuming!`

>>>I'm not interested in fuming patriots.  I'm more interested in why you think 
>>>that world government is a good idea?

>>Same reason why it is better for the USA to be one country than 50
>>There would be no war and decisions would get made through democratic
>>process. 

>     We've already had one civil war in the United States.  Plenty of
>other countries have fractured into pieces when they didn't like
>what the Central Authority had to say.  Size, as a general rule, just 
>makes these problems worse.  (You're likely to have a war just deciding
>where the capital should be.)

>     This "democratic process" would then allow those countries (areas)
>with the most people (China, India, etc.) to have a far greater voice than
>others.  Why should they be dictating issues to somebody who lives, say,
>in England or Canada?

Bravo! Spoken like a true democrat! Why should folks in Sacramento dictate
issues to someone in San Jose? Why should someone in Washington dictate to
someone in Oregon? Why should someone across the street dictate to me?
(Otherwise known as the "I believe in democracy as long as I can control it"
theory of hypocrisy...)

>>If the world government is democratically elected then there
>>would be no way around the will of the people and we would not have
>>to all sink to the economic lowest common denomenator in order to 
>>survive. 

>     "the will of the people" is not always the best way to go.  Sometimes
>the will of the people can be downright dangerous and destructive.

That's why we have armies to keep them uppity pipples in their place,
right?
-- 
"I mean the clearing out of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race.
It's one of those things it is easy to talk about -- `The Jewish race is being
exterminated,' says one party member, `that's quite clear, it's in our program
-- elimination of the Jews, and we're doing it, exterminating them.'"[Himmler]