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In article <1992Apr12.070834.2636@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>   In article <JIME.92Apr12001214@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>   # In article <1992Apr12.014433.29249@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>   # If the Israeli soldiers didn't fire the guns, the Palestinians
>   # wouldn't be killed.  All the Israeli government has to do to stop the
>   # killings is to change their policies of crowd control in the occupied
>   # areas.
>
>	   This is an absurdity.  If the parents would stop sending children
>   out to throw stones, the Israeli soldiers would not fire guns.  After
>   all, how many stone throwers were fired on before there were stone
>   throwers?

Now that we have pretty much delimited the two poles of the argument,
the true state of affairs must lie somewhere in between.  Both the
Palestinian rock-throwers and the Israeli policy for dealing with the
intifada are responsible for the deaths.

>   #  The present policy for controlling the intifada by force,
>   # might, shootings, and beatings has failed.  The Israeli government
>   # must realize this by now, but they are unwilling to change their
>   # tactics.
>
>	   I agree it has failed.  The Israeli government has been to soft,
>   weak, and whimpy, which has only encouraged more "palestinian?"
>   violence.

An interesting opinion.  In 1989 Israeli IDF Chief of Staff Shomron
said "People ask why we don't end the intifada.  Anyone who wants to
end the intifada must remember that there are only three ways to
achieve this:  transfer of the Arab population of the areas,
starvation, or physical elimination - that is genocide."  Which of
these or any other less wimpy policies would you support?

>   # After all, the Israelis have no consciences, they feel no guilt about
>   # the ~1000 Palestinians shot to death since 1988.  (sarcasm)
>
>	   Whether or not this is true, false, sarcastic or not is irelevent.
>   It is relevent, however, that "palestinian?" parents are commiting
>   child abuse.

Statistics which make you uncomfortable you label as irrelevant.

>   # Huh?  Haven't you heard, the Israeli military occupies the West Bank,
>   # the Gaza Strip, and the Golan Heights, in contravention of UN
>   # resolutions.  That makes them the occupationists.
>
>	   They are there because of wars and threats that were and are Arab
>   originated.  UN resolutions are nothing more then organized political
>   bigotry in this case.

So now the UN and most of the world is wrong?  Wake up and smell the coffee.
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=Jim  jime%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)