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Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA? The Alarming Facts"

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From: Jim Eggert x6127 g41
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:15
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In article <1992Apr14.055734.25544@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>   In article <JIME.92Apr13111632@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>   # In article <1992Apr13.054206.5584@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>   # >   In article <JIME.92Apr13001541@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>
>   # >   # Now that we have pretty much delimited the two poles of the argument,
>   # >   # the true state of affairs must lie somewhere in between.  Both the
>   # >   # Palestinian rock-throwers and the Israeli policy for dealing with the
>   # >   # intifada are responsible for the deaths.
>
>   # >	   Wrong.  The Israeli policy for dealing with the intifada is a
>   # >   result of the activities of the intifada (which includes the stone
>   # >   throwing).  That makes those responsible for the stone throwing
>   # >   responsible for the Israeli response.   One consequence of this is
>   # >   that those Arab parents who are responsible for the stone throwing are
>   # >   responsible for all the deaths (inclduing innocent Arabs, many of
>   # >   which are children) and they therefore should be put on trial for such
>   # >   acts.
>
>   # This sort of logic leads nowhere.
>
>	   Only if you do not understand it, as it is the case here.
>
>   # The intifada is a result of the
>   # Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
>
>	   Oh really.  Then how come it took so long.

Because some things take a long time.  The execution of some Nazi war
criminals is a result of their war crimes.  Some of these executions
didn't happen until 40-50 years later.

>   Ho come it fizzles out from time to time.  

A better characterization would be that it flares up from time to
time.  Most civil unrest takes on this nature.

>   How come there have been others who have really
>   suufered for no fault of their own who would not even contemplate an
>   intifada.  How come ...

Different circumstances, different timings, different results.

...
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=Jim  jime%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
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Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
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