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Re: European Social democracy vs. American Capitalism

#677
From: Carl Edman
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:27
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Alex Bunker writes
> Carl Edman writes:
> >NOT ! NOT !
> >
> >The Eurosocialists did _not_ take away power from the Christian Democrats.
> >The Eurosocialists have had control of the EP since it was founded. This 
> >just didn't change the last time around. 
> >
> 
> NOT! NOT! NOT!
> they used to rule in coalition with the christian democrats but after the
> last european parliamentary election they gained enough seats so they could
> make a new alliance with the greens (officially known as "rainbow block")
> in the european parliament and shut out che C. dems.

NOT!^4

The european parliament _has_ no executive. There are no permanent governing  
coalitions like in France, Britain or Germany. Hence nobody there rules in  
combination with anybody else. Before _or_ after the last election.

> >As for the CDU, every single mid-term it has been low in the polls and yet
> >did win every single national election in Germany for more than a decade.And  
> >the opposition party which is by the way the SPD (you would not happen to be
> >a synonym for Thurgood Marshall here posting on the net ?). This party is so  
> >_terminally_ embarrased about it close friendship with the butchers of the  
> >StaSi-state that I'm surprised that it is still around e.g. just a few years  
> >before the wall fell they actually managed to get the west german center for  
> >the tracking of human rights violations in east germany closed because it  
> >offended their friends who are now on trial for mass murder (that was  
> >_their_  argument).
> >
> Maybe but the CDU has NEVER lost the REINLAND PALATINATE
> provincial election before (Kohls home state and all)
> they have been caught lying (oh no reunification will not
> cause a tax rise NOT!) and now they will pay. Besides Byorn
> Engholm is a FAR more likeable fellow than that
> overweight blathering unilingual boor. 

Yes, the CDU has never lsot the r_h_einland palatinate before. On the other  
hand the SPD did never lose Hessia until a few years ago. Nothing happend then.  
Nothing will happen now.

Your Engholm, BTW, was the man who spearheaded the successful effort to kill  
the west german registry for Stasi crimes just a few years before the wall came  
down because it might offend the East German regime. Whether that renders him  
"FAR more likeable" may be a matter of taste.

> >As for Mitterand he is one of the last ruling self-confessed communists in  
> >Europe. But if East Berlin and Moscow can fall, so can Paris.
> 
> Has Mitterand currently stated his position as being a
> communist?

In Mitterands acceptance speech when he was first elected he stated literarily  
(not quite - he said it in french) that "in my head I'm a Socialist, but in my  
_heart_ I'm a Communist!". 

	Carl Edman
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