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Re: Maybe hero creation is our problem. Re: Magic is no Hero

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From: stephen
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 21:45
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In article <12641@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>In article <1aof1bINNenk@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU writes:
>> In article <1992Oct4.202705.1254@jack.sns.com> jsb@jack.sns.com (Jim Best) writes:
>> >
>> No he is not the only one.  People in general think they are safe becuase
>> they are not 'gay' or drug users.  Well everyday now we see that this is
>> not true.  Anyone and everyone can contract the condition of AIDS.
>
>Most people have enough sense, or morals, to not engage in casual
>sex with hundreds of different partners, and to not abuse IV drugs.
>Magic Johnson is that relatively rare phenomenon, a straight person
>as promiscuous as the average homosexual, and it is not surprising
>that he got AIDS.

This is an incorrect statement that only continues to perpetuate a 
general view of a class of people.  It is useless and does not advance
any positive or supportive ideas.
>
>Yes, there are people who do everything right, and get AIDS.  Infected
>by sloppy homosexual dentists, or a blood transfusion (and the blood
>supply still cares about 1:60,000 risk per unit of blood of causing

I have read several different values for the ratio of risk.  It is probably
difficult to come up with a 'certain' or concrete value.  Your world is
filled with risks, and I do not know what various ratios for different
risks.  But you could be killed today in an auto accident, or shot by
someone, or fall down a flight of stairs.  

>AIDS).  There are women out there with the misfortune to marry 
>someone like Magic Johnson, and suffer the consequences.  But those
>are quite exceptional in America.
>

The drift of your argument seems twofold; homosexuals as blame targets
and others who act like homosexuals, when it comes to sexual activity.
Again these are, at best, shaky arguments.  You have presented arguments
and citations that still do not give you a solid foundation on which to
attack particular groups.

>> >        Here we have a guy who put his wife at risk of infection as well as
>> >his baby. Yet instead of being labeled a moron, he is called a hero.
>> 
>> All within the mythos that he has been taught.  It is a matter of blaming
>
>WHAT mythos?  You mean the liberal notion: "If it feels good, do it?"

The mythos that you and I live under- freedom, liberty, the pursuit of
our own interest, etc.  I am not interested in hearing about 'liberal' this
and 'liberal' that, or 'conservative' notions either.  We will lose the
battle against many things, if all we really want to do is pin the blame
on someone or some group.  Scapegoating is an old and tired method of
problem solving.

It is ashame that people cannot exceed themselves and start talking in 
terms of what can be done and how can I be part of the solution, instead
of a finger pointer or a name caller.
>
>-- 
>Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
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Subject: Re: Maybe hero creation is our problem.  Re: Magic is no Hero
Date: 6 Oct 1992 21:45:27 GMT
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