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In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3182009@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug2.112925.22708@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:
>>   In article <EGGERTJ.92Jul30165655@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
>>   >I don't understand what you mean when you say that Israel has been one
>>   >of the USA's most steadfast allies.  Do you mean that the US has, in
>>   >time of need, been able to go to Israel for help?  Do you mean that
>>   >Israel has done its best to do what the US wants it to do?  Please
>>   >explain.
>>
>>   Well, militarily, the US and Israel have a number of joint projects currently, as
>>   well as having purchased each others technology. (Arrow missile, pilotless planes,
>>   tank armor improvements, etc.)  Non-militarily, the US and Israel have a free
>>   trade agreement. (furniture, clothing, etc.)  I believe the US and Israel have
>>   common voting patterns in the UN.  During the Gulf war, Israel stayed out at
>>   the request of the US.
>
>Militarily, Israel has developed the atomic bomb, much to the chagrin
>of the US.  They did so in part by stealing nuclear materials from the
>US.

Israel is an ally, not a puppet.  And the US has also developed an A-bomb, so
what ?  And when did they steal nuclear materials ?

>  They have also spied extensively on us (the Pollard case is just
>what has been discovered and revealed).  They have been accused of
>selling US military technology to China and South Africa.

If you bothered to follow up the China story, it was Israeli technology.  And,
how do *you* know so much about unrevealed spying ?

>Non-militarily US-Israeli trade couldn't make a fly sneeze.  The US
>and Israel have common voting patterns in the UN, mostly because the
>US is backing Israel on a lot of Mideast resolutions.  During the Gulf
>war, Israel stayed out as the result of about 3 minutes of reflection
>on the cost and benefits of bombing Iraq.

You are wrong about this, lots of high level debate in the Israeli govt. went
on during the gulf war.  I highly doubt that the votes against attacking Iraq
were many more than those favoring an attack.

Mark