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Re: ARF's racist remark was:Re: Treason vs. Espionage

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From: David Marc Nieporent
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:18
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In <BzA2vG.KyI@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>In <1g4a63INNbi6@agate.berkeley.edu> dan@jonas.berkeley.edu (dan graves) says:

>>|>  >You agree that non-whites are incapable of sustaining our 
>>|>  civilization?  That's pretty raw even for you, Jack.

>>|>  I was agreeing with sentiment.  I did not choose the words.  
>>|>  It is someone elses' quote.

>>|>  I would have used the culture instead of civilization.

>>|>  Clearly when a whole group of Aamericans desides to call 
>>|>  themselves African-Americans, they are implying a desire to 
>>|>  promote a different culture.

>>This comment is racist.  Clearly Schmidling thinks
>>that African Americans have less right to their identity
>>than Italian Americans or Irish Americans or 
>>(insert Caucasian identity) Americans.

>>I've got news for you, Schmidling, you hateful racist
>>bastard.  African Americans have been here longer than most groups
>>and have made more of a contribution to American culture
>>than any other ethnic group i can think of.
>>They can call themselves anything they like and i for 
>>one will respect their contribution to MY culture.

>>Yes, Schmidling, you filthy racist, African Americans
>>are just as American as you are.  In fact, you 
>>have shown you do not understand the basic principles that 
>>the United States depends upon. I for one am ashamed that
>>you exist to shame the name of my great country.

>I don't know where to begin editing this rubbish so I left in in tact.

>All I said was the African Americans are (by definition) promoting African
>culture.  Everything you said in response is nothing by hateful rubbish
>because you can't think of anything objective to say about what is 
>a given and are to stupid to keep your mouth shut.

This was a dumb rebuttal to Schmidling's idiotic post.  Schmidling, your
post was stupid because it made no sense.  (1) There is no such thing as
"African culture."  Any more than there is such a thing as "European
culture."  (2) African-American's are not by definition promoting
African culture at all.  (3) When you say they are "promoting a
different culture," what do you mean?  Different than what?  Different
than non-African-Americans?  Sure.  But Italian-Americans promote a
different culture than non-Italian-Americans, and you never seem to be
complaining that Italian-Americans can't sustain "our" civilization.

And talk about "to [sic] stupid to keep your mouth shut."  Gee, pots and
kettles, huh, arf?
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Subject: Re: ARF's racist remark was:Re: Treason vs. Espionage
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