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In article <1992Dec11.014643.18356@oracle.us.oracle.com> rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
>dan@jonas.berkeley.edu (dan graves) writes:
>
>>arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>
>>|>  >You agree that non-whites are incapable of sustaining our 
>>|>  civilization?  That's pretty raw even for you, Jack.
>
>This sounds like a rather loaded question ... and I should note that
>I am taking it on credsit that this is actually what Jack said, and
>that this is not a misinterpretation of his statements. He seems to
>get that a lot, as a consequence of assuming stances that are not
>popular.

It's called creative editing.  I said nothing of the kind nor do I
believe it.  I simply pointed out that they seem to be more interested
in promoting African culture than American.  That is not a value
judgement, just an opinion.






>In any case, I, for one, am at a loss as to why people move to America,
>then pine for the old country and insist on indoctrinating their kids
>
>I think what Jack is noticing is that something is out of whack. He is
>right there. What he's missing, IMHO, is that Black people born in North
>America, still feel like they are in an alien environment. And that is
>a real problem, one crying to be solved.

That is a good point but in my opinion is a felling created by the
so-called civil rights leaders, lawyers and the media and does not
reflect the real world.  Blacks are guaranteed the same rights as
anyone else.  Unfortunately, there seems to be a perception that
right must translate into results.

BTW, I feel like an alien when I go into a Black community.  Maybe 
that's just the way it is and we should quit trying to lforce our
culture on each other.

js

>But it is not, de facto, racism to notice a race-based problem.
>
>If there is additional text that has been omitted that is damning, I have
>no problem modifying that perception.
>
>
>>I've got news for you, Schmidling, you hateful racist
>>bastard.  African Americans have been here longer than most groups
>>and have made more of a contribution to American culture
>>than any other ethnic group i can think of.
>>They can call themselves anything they like and i for 
>>one will respect their contribution to MY culture.
>>
>>Yes, Schmidling, you filthy racist, African Americans
>>are just as American as you are.  In fact, you 
>>have shown you do not understand the basic principles that 
>>the United States depends upon. I for one am ashamed that
>>you exist to shame the name of my great country.
>
>This in itself is pretty hateful and does little to resolve Schmidling's
>alleged thought crime(s), now does it ?
>
>
>-- richard
>
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