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In article <1992Aug14.155840.8387@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat) writes:
 
# In <1992Aug14.150800.5879@cs.brown.edu> Danny Keren states:
 
# |#Remind me, is this the same Israeli AF that executed the infamous
# |#attack against the slow-moving, non-stealthy, and ill-defended USS
# |#Liberty?  A ship the Israelis couldn't identify after hours of recon,
# |#and didn't after three attack waves?  Or so goes the official story...

# |#Seems to me that either the Israelis aren't so hot at identifying and
# |#killing targets after all, or that the Liberty story as told in public
# |#is wrong.  Take your choice.
 
# |Mistakes happen in war, even to the best and most expereinced air-forces.
 
# Hmm, interestingly enough, I happened across a letter written by a 
# member of the USS Liberty Veterans Association several years ago [NOT
# James Ennes] to a magazine. He makes it clear that ECM pods carried 
# onboard Mirage IIIs (I believe that's the designation of the Israeli 
# Mirages.) were set for U.S. Navy communications frequencies, AND WERE 
# NOT WIDEBAND JAMMING.
 
	Do you (or perhaps the author of that letter) know anything about
the laws of physics, radio frequencies, military intelligence, counter
intelligence?

# This clearly indicates Israeli knowledge of the USS Liberty as an
# American vessel and not of any combatant.

	Correct.  By the way, how come you log on as 'rats' and not your
real name, which I remember to be D Woo.  At any rate, you once posted
something blaming Jews for antisemitism since some Jews support gun
control.  I take everything you write as absurd.
--

David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu

In article <1992Aug14.224611.19196@ennews.eas.asu.edu>,
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

|>In article <1992Aug14.155840.8387@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>
|>rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat) writes:
|> 
|># In <1992Aug14.150800.5879@cs.brown.edu> Danny Keren states:
|> 
|># |#Remind me, is this the same Israeli AF that executed the infamous
|># |#attack against the slow-moving, non-stealthy, and ill-defended
|>USS
|># |#Liberty?  A ship the Israelis couldn't identify after hours of
|>recon,
|># |#and didn't after three attack waves?  Or so goes the official
|>story...
|>
|># |#Seems to me that either the Israelis aren't so hot at identifying
|>and
|># |#killing targets after all, or that the Liberty story as told in
|>public
|># |#is wrong.  Take your choice.
|> 
|># |Mistakes happen in war, even to the best and most expereinced
|>air-forces.
|> 
|># Hmm, interestingly enough, I happened across a letter written by a 
|># member of the USS Liberty Veterans Association several years ago
|>[NOT
|># James Ennes] to a magazine. He makes it clear that ECM pods carried
|>|># onboard Mirage IIIs (I believe that's the designation of the
|>Israeli 
|># Mirages.) were set for U.S. Navy communications frequencies, AND
|>WERE 
|># NOT WIDEBAND JAMMING.
|> 
|>	Do you (or perhaps the author of that letter) know anything about
|>the laws of physics, radio frequencies, military intelligence,
|>counter
|>intelligence?

Perhaps someone could publish a list of these "US Navy frequencies"? It
sounds awfuly decent of them to stick to the same ones all the time. I
read in Spycatcher that we Brits are dastardly enough to keep changing
ours so as to avoid jamming! Perhaps the US should consider buying some
of our British Communications gear with these modern features?

BTW what particular logic was there in setting a post about Israeli
jamming to US distribution only?

For what it's worth I don't think that Jakes comparison of the Osirak
incident with the Gulf war is appropriate. Comparing single missions
with battles or entire wars is futile.


Phill Hallam-Baker