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3 total messages Started by tom betz Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:31
arf defends his honor
#769
Author: tom betz
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:31
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Quoth Seth R Rosenthal regarding ARF DEFENDS HIS HONOR on 09-25-92:

SR>Demjanjuk was deported not because
SR>he was Ivan of Treblinka.  He was deported because there was
SR>documentation that he had lied on his immigration papers about his
SR>collaboration with the Nazis.  U.S. law strictly forbade immigration
SR>of anyone who had any connection with the Nazi party, or collaborated
SR>with the German occupying forces.

Unless, of course, the DSS/cum CIA felt it had need of their talents.

Thousands of Nazi collaborators and SS officers were imported by US 
intelligence agencies under false identities.



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Re: arf defends his honor
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Author: f_gautjw
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:33
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In article <1992Sep26.1290.7850@execnet>, tom.betz@execnet.com (tom betz) writes:
> Quoth Seth R Rosenthal regarding ARF DEFENDS HIS HONOR on 09-25-92:
> 
> SR>Demjanjuk was deported not because
> SR>he was Ivan of Treblinka.  He was deported because there was
> SR>documentation that he had lied on his immigration papers about his
> SR>collaboration with the Nazis.  U.S. law strictly forbade immigration
> SR>of anyone who had any connection with the Nazi party, or collaborated
> SR>with the German occupying forces.
> 
> Unless, of course, the DSS/cum CIA felt it had need of their talents.
> 
> Thousands of Nazi collaborators and SS officers were imported by US 
> intelligence agencies under false identities.
> 
> 
	My understanding is that the OSS imported those thought to have
some potential future use in the intelligence game...all of which speaks
quite highly of intelligence agencies, doesn't it?  Demjanjunk, however,
appears to have led the life of a model citizen as an auto worker and
probably knew nothing of political value to anyone.  Our Justice Dept.
withheld information that probably would have stayed his extradition and
those in authority, believing he was Ivan of Treblinka, exported him.
He was not the person the Justice Dept. claimed he was.  If he was a
real criminal, the mess should be cleared up in this country.  Further,
one cannot overlook the flaws in Israeli justice by which many senior
citizens mistakenly identified Demjanjuk as Ivan of Treblinka.  Although
I can understand their desire for justice or even vengeance, so many
mistakes suggest underhanded techniques by the prosecution at the best
and give the affair the atmosphere of a Soviet show trial.
	I have trouble with one other point on this matter.  Assume he
was a guard of the worst sort who brutalized prisoners.  There were
prisoners of many nationalities who were victims at such camps.  If
extradition were in order, it seems he should be extradicted to the
country where the crimes actually took place...Lithuania or wherever.
Israel was not yet a nation when any such crimes took place.  What was
the legal rationale for extradition to Israel?
Re: arf defends his honor
#773
Author: Jack Schmidling
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 15:43
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In article <1992Sep27.093338.1204@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>	I have trouble with one other point on this matter.  Assume he
>was a guard of the worst sort who brutalized prisoners.  There were
>prisoners of many nationalities who were victims at such camps.  If
>extradition were in order, it seems he should be extradicted to the
>country where the crimes actually took place...Lithuania or wherever.
>Israel was not yet a nation when any such crimes took place.  What was
>the legal rationale for extradition to Israel?

I am sad to say it is the same rationale that send over 50% of the total
US foreign aid budget to Israel.  Simply, American politcs and a good
reason to do something different.

Vote for Perot.....

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