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9 total messages Started by Venus²² Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:56
WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#396
Author: Venus²²
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:56
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Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each 
other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border 
problem will ever occur.

Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico and then 
collect our money back later once they are sufficient.  Food is the #1 step 
to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food supplies 
etc..  what do you think?

Is this not realistic?
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#397
Author: johnny
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:11
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Venus�� wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each 
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or 
> border problem will ever occur.
> 
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico and 
> then collect our money back later once they are sufficient.  Food is the 
> #1 step to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of 
> Food supplies etc..  what do you think?
> 
> Is this not realistic?
> 
> 
No it is not realistic.  Mexico is self sufficient, and can solve its 
own problems.

The only way to solve the problems of a country like Haiti or the 
Dominican Republic, is to take it over, and kill every rich person in 
the country.
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#398
Author: Venus²²
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:27
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<johnny@.> wrote in message news:k_0ih.832$_X.273@bigfe9...
> Venus�� wrote:
>> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each 
>> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border 
>> problem will ever occur.
>>
>> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico and 
>> then collect our money back later once they are sufficient.  Food is the 
>> #1 step to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of 
>> Food supplies etc..  what do you think?
>>
>> Is this not realistic?
>>
>>
> No it is not realistic.  Mexico is self sufficient, and can solve its own 
> problems.
>
> The only way to solve the problems of a country like Haiti or the 
> Dominican Republic, is to take it over, and kill every rich person in the 
> country.

I think you are right, it's unlikely that Mexicans will want to stay in 
their own country, because they are spoiled. 
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#399
Author: Don Gabacho
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:28
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Venus²² wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border
> problem will ever occur.
>
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico...

Mexico is being helped. Over twenty-billion U.S. dollars remitted a
year enters Mexico's bank accounts and circulation alone; and that
doesn't included the billions more made by the favored nation status
Mexico has with the U.S. in NAFTA.

Yet when Mexicans attempt to make Mexico better, they're raped, thrown
into jail and "disappeared."

When even an illegal returns from the U.S.A. to Mexico (ex: Sosa) to
make Mexico "better," he's thrown into jail.

The only thing Americans can do to make Mexico better is stop that
government's export of labor for profit by, at least, insisting that
government's consulates stateside pack-up and get out.

> and then
> collect our money back later once they are sufficient...

Bail out Mexico AGAIN!

Just stuff those politicians' pockets. Sure.

>  Food is the #1 step
> to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food supplies
> etc..  what do you think?
>
> Is this not realistic?

You need a serious wake-up call. Slated since 1981, Mexico's "food"
production had already been marked for U.S. control. With the signing
of NAFTA hundreds of thousands of small-landholders in Mexico were
promptly thrown off their farms to make way for agri-business.

Hasn't the displacement of those millions displacing even millions more
been just wonderful?
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#400
Author: Venus
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:45
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"Don Gabacho" <jpastore@nettaxi.com> wrote in message 
news:1166581698.151378.266320@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

Venus�� wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border
> problem will ever occur.
>
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico...

Mexico is being helped. Over twenty-billion U.S. dollars remitted a
year enters Mexico's bank accounts and circulation alone; and that
doesn't included the billions more made by the favored nation status
Mexico has with the U.S. in NAFTA.

Yet when Mexicans attempt to make Mexico better, they're raped, thrown
into jail and "disappeared."

When even an illegal returns from the U.S.A. to Mexico (ex: Sosa) to
make Mexico "better," he's thrown into jail.

The only thing Americans can do to make Mexico better is stop that
government's export of labor for profit by, at least, insisting that
government's consulates stateside pack-up and get out.

> and then
> collect our money back later once they are sufficient...

Bail out Mexico AGAIN!

Just stuff those politicians' pockets. Sure.

>  Food is the #1 step
> to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food 
> supplies
> etc..  what do you think?
>
> Is this not realistic?

You need a serious wake-up call. Slated since 1981, Mexico's "food"
production had already been marked for U.S. control. With the signing
of NAFTA hundreds of thousands of small-landholders in Mexico were
promptly thrown off their farms to make way for agri-business.

Hasn't the displacement of those millions displacing even millions more
been just wonderful?
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#401
Author: Venus
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:46
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"Don Gabacho" <jpastore@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
news:1166581698.151378.266320@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

Venus�� wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border
> problem will ever occur.
>
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico...

Mexico is being helped. Over twenty-billion U.S. dollars remitted a
year enters Mexico's bank accounts and circulation alone; and that
doesn't included the billions more made by the favored nation status
Mexico has with the U.S. in NAFTA.

Yet when Mexicans attempt to make Mexico better, they're raped, thrown
into jail and "disappeared."

When even an illegal returns from the U.S.A. to Mexico (ex: Sosa) to
make Mexico "better," he's thrown into jail.

The only thing Americans can do to make Mexico better is stop that
government's export of labor for profit by, at least, insisting that
government's consulates stateside pack-up and get out.

> and then
> collect our money back later once they are sufficient...

Bail out Mexico AGAIN!

Just stuff those politicians' pockets. Sure.

>  Food is the #1 step
> to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food
> supplies
> etc..  what do you think?
>
> Is this not realistic?

You need a serious wake-up call. Slated since 1981, Mexico's "food"
production had already been marked for U.S. control. With the signing
of NAFTA hundreds of thousands of small-landholders in Mexico were
promptly thrown off their farms to make way for agri-business.

Hasn't the displacement of those millions displacing even millions more
been just wonderful?
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#402
Author: Venus
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:48
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"Don Gabacho" <jpastore@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
news:1166581698.151378.266320@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

Venus�� wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border
> problem will ever occur.
>
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico...

Mexico is being helped. Over twenty-billion U.S. dollars remitted a
year enters Mexico's bank accounts and circulation alone; and that
doesn't included the billions more made by the favored nation status
Mexico has with the U.S. in NAFTA.

Yet when Mexicans attempt to make Mexico better, they're raped, thrown
into jail and "disappeared."

When even an illegal returns from the U.S.A. to Mexico (ex: Sosa) to
make Mexico "better," he's thrown into jail.

The only thing Americans can do to make Mexico better is stop that
government's export of labor for profit by, at least, insisting that
government's consulates stateside pack-up and get out.

> and then
> collect our money back later once they are sufficient...

Bail out Mexico AGAIN!

Just stuff those politicians' pockets. Sure.

>  Food is the #1 step
> to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food
> supplies
> etc..  what do you think?
>
> Is this not realistic?

You're right on the trail you mentioned here, however I'm proposing that US 
run the show instead of giving them money as in the past.  Either that or 
closing the door, so Mexico can learn and start doing something good for 
their citizens.
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#403
Author: Venus²²
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:48
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"Don Gabacho" <jpastore@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
news:1166581698.151378.266320@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...

Venus�� wrote:
> Our planet has plenty of resources, if we all can focus on helping each
> other by making each country be self-sufficient, No immigration or border
> problem will ever occur.
>
> Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico...

Mexico is being helped. Over twenty-billion U.S. dollars remitted a
year enters Mexico's bank accounts and circulation alone; and that
doesn't included the billions more made by the favored nation status
Mexico has with the U.S. in NAFTA.

Yet when Mexicans attempt to make Mexico better, they're raped, thrown
into jail and "disappeared."

When even an illegal returns from the U.S.A. to Mexico (ex: Sosa) to
make Mexico "better," he's thrown into jail.

The only thing Americans can do to make Mexico better is stop that
government's export of labor for profit by, at least, insisting that
government's consulates stateside pack-up and get out.

> and then
> collect our money back later once they are sufficient...

Bail out Mexico AGAIN!

Just stuff those politicians' pockets. Sure.

>  Food is the #1 step
> to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food
> supplies
> etc..  what do you think?
>
> Is this not realistic?

You're right on the trail you mentioned here, however I'm proposing that US
run the show instead of giving them money as in the past.  Either that or
closing the door, so Mexico can learn and start doing something good for
their citizens.
Re: WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS..
#406
Author: Roedy Green
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:09
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:56:57 GMT, Venus�� <Venus��@Microsoft.com>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

>Instead of spending moneys on building fences, we could help Mexico and then 
>collect our money back later once they are sufficient.  Food is the #1 step 
>to create,  Let US run the show, governing the reproduction of Food supplies 
>etc..  what do you think?

The problem is humans don't care about absolute wealth, they care
about RELATIVE wealth.  The important thing is to have more than your
neighbour, even if you could not possibly use your abundance.

It is easier to push your neighbour down than you pull yourself up, to
achieve the desired imbalance.

Note how businesses focus on destroying each other, or buying out each
other.  The same with countries. The USA consumes 40 to 60% of the
entire planet's resources, depending on whom you ask.  They don't want
to change that and they have the political power to keep that
imbalance in place.  

That is what the Iraq war is about.

What we have some chance of doing is raising the absolute floor --
e.g. assuring everyone has water and shelter and 2000 calories. The
wealthy in America have been ruthlessly widening the wealth gap.  They
were not even content with the 1950's prosperity gap.
-- 
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages.
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