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Article #53Re: IBM or Mac for young child?
From: Dan Wojciechowski
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:00
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Yinon Bentor wrote: > > If you are looking for a computer from a company that isn't scheduled to go > bankrupt soon, buy a PC. However, buying a PC is much more complicated Actually, a lot of small "no name" computer vendors disappear every year. Fortunately, the pieces that make up a PC are commodity items and can be purchased everywhere. If you are a person who needs "technical support", that can be hard to find. Your best bet is to find is to find a friend who is a computer nut, feed him lots of brownies, and have him over when things don't work just right. > than buying a Mac. I would recommend buying "Computer Shopper" You can > find it in most news stands and computer stores, and I've even seen it on > some grocery store shelves. It is always the thickest and heaviest > magazine in the store. Then, decide what features you want: There are a miriad of possible components. Give up trying to buy the best, since that's a moving target. Buy what meets your needs. > 1) Are you looking to buy a computer that will cost less now, but will be > obsolete in a few years, or do you want to pay a few extra $$$ and get a > really good system that will last your for 4 or 5 years? Depends on your definition. I've got a freind who util two weeks ago was plugging along on a 386DX-20 based machine. He played games, ran windows, surfed the web, and let his children use it. Now, I've helped him upgrade to a 486DX40. He's as pleased as punch. Still does the same things, but now its faster. Soon he'll try some things that wouldn't run well on the old 386. I define obsolete as being generally unable to run current software, not just unable to run the lastest and greatest game at 30 frames per second. > Either way, don't even think about getting something less than a P133 > with 16 megs of RAM. If you want a system that will last longer, give > some consideration to a Pentium Pro, but don't get anything less than a > Pentium 200. I'd say that I'd put the bottom limit at a P100 (that's what I've got), or if you really, really don't have the money, an AMD5x86-133 (the fastest 486). Jumping to a Pentium 200 or a PPro (180/200) is a big cost jump, and I don't thing that the price today warrents it unless you need the power now. Remember that the speed difference from a P75 to a P100 is large. P100 to P133 is medium. P133 to P166 is small. And P166 to P200? Not worth it at todays prices. If you'd like to know all the technical details, contact me directly. > 2) Are you planning on doing any graphics or number crunching? > If yes, make sure to get 32 megs of RAM-- at $5/meg, it is very cheap now. RAM is still at historical lows. Definitely get 16 MegaBytes. Number crunching has nothing to do with RAM. Large graphics and piggy applications like MS Office run faster with more memory. (This assumes you run some version of MS Windows. Apps slow down when the amount of memory is to small to contain them and a part of the app must be temporarily written to disk and retreived from disk. The "disk swapping" is what slows down the application.) > 3) Will the computer be used to run games? > If so, get a good sound card (32 bit is the best) and a fast CD-ROM (8x > are relatively cheap now.. don't settle for anything less than 6x) Or children's applications. Children's software is filled with delightful (annoying?) sounds to help keep their attention. Definitely get a sound card. An 8 bit Soundblaster will work fine. If you care about sound quality get a 16 bit Soundblaster or compatible. There are no 32 bit cards. The 32 refers to the number of voices. Cheaper cards typically do 20 voices, more expensive do 32. Wave table synthesis cards will make real instruments sound real, rather than like really nice electronic instruments. I agree that at todays prices a 6X CD-ROM should be the starting point. If the price difference is less than %30, consider the 8X. Still, everything available today runs pretty well with a 4X. My childrens machine has a perfectly usable 2X, while I have a 6X that spends most of its time loafing. (i.e. it has no problem keeping up) > 4) Will the computer be used to surf the Net? > If you have these plans in mind, consider getting a 33.6 modem. Even if > there are no ISPs in your area that support 33.6 modems, they will upgrade > soon. New technologies like ISDN and cable modems aren't for mainstream > markets yet, so don't invest in them yet. They are always easy to add > afterwards. > At a minimum, get a 28.8 upgradable to 33.6. I've surfed with a 14.4 for a year. It's doable, but it teaches patience. (Hmmm... not such a bad idea.) The 28.8 was a welcome upgrade. 33.6 is not universally available yet, but it will be soon. Forget ISDN and cable modems for now. A few years will show how the market shakes out. Maybe it will be ADSL. > Also, give some consideration to getting a SCSI 2 machine. This will mean > higher prices, but the peripherals are plug and play, and they usually run > faster than EIDE. Also, ask the company that you are getting your computer For the cost conscious buy caring about a machine for typical home and children use, forget the SCSI. Considerably more expensive and EIDE devices are plenty fast. Trust me. You'll wish you had an extra Gig of hard drive long before you'll want the extra speed SCSI will give you. As for Plug and Play: unless you are a PC whiz like me, get a Plug and Play capable motherboard/bios and use a Plug and Play OS like Windows 95. My pentium 100 is my first Plug and Play machine and these things could put me out of my job helping my friends. The BIOS/Win95 has recognized and configure my Ethernet cards, three video cards, and two sound cards all correctly. New BIOS (oh, that's the Basic Input/Output System-what lets the PC boot an operating system off a disk) automatically detect your new hard drive type and configure the parameters to access it. Its really gotten easy. Not perfect, and not quite MAC, but easy compared to the "old" days. > from to use 16 meg SIMMS. When I got my computer, it came with 8 MB of > RAM, all in 1 MB SIMMS, and filling in all available memory slots. Now I'm Definitely make sure you have room for two more RAM devices. For example, start with 2 8's to make a total of 16. This leaves room for an additional pair of 8s or even 16s if you need them someday. (all new Pentiums require RAM SIMMs to be added in pairs). Most Pentium motherboards have 4 SIMM sockets, some have 6. > not able to add more RAM because of this. Zip drives are really nice, but > only if you use 2 or more computers and need to exchange files between them > often. Floppies are defiantly out. Here, here. Also consider the Zip drive or its competitors as an alternative to a tape drive for backups. Backups? If you keep any information you care about and that you provided (documents, financials, whatever) on your computer, BACK IT UP. NOW. There are two kinds of data. Data you don't care about, and data you lost. >As for processor speed, the higher the > better. 166 is very common now, with 200 MHz becoming more and more True. But the speed increase per processor step is not nearly as big as you might think at the high end. (I'm assuming that all other parts of the system are the same.) > popular. Also, depending on the prices, get 2 or 4 megs of RAM on your > video card. Get at least two. This will allow you to see graphics on the Web or in applications as they really look. >As for a monitor, all work fine. 14" are very uncommon now, > and 15" are standard. NEC makes some really nice monitors, but they cost > more. > I'd recommend a 15" monitor using an 800x600 working resolution as the starting point. 640x480 doesn't let you see enough on the screen. A 14" monitor is too small to use comfortable at more than 640x480 unless you are still sharp eyed. Most children's software runs at 640x480, so at 800x600, it only fills a portion of your screen (under Windows), but this is fine. Most children's software requires 8 bit color (256 color mode). So if you, like me, prefer to work at 16 bit (64k colors) or 24 bit (16million colors), you'll need to get good at switching your mode back and forth. TIP: On the Microsoft web site, and elsewhere, you can find the Microsoft Power Tools. These are little tools the developers of Win95 use, but aren't in Windows95. The best is a little program which gives you a little monitor on your Win95 status bar that allows you to switch between any of your system's video modes (resolution and color depth) without having to restart windows. > Anyway, call some companies with ads in Computer Shopper. Most > salespersons are knowledgeable, but some can be a little pushy. > > Good luck with your purchase. > Yinon Bentor > yinon@boone.net Good luck as well, -- Dan (Woj...) dmaster@lucent.com ========================================================================== "I felt so symbolic, yesterday. "If I knew Picasso, "I'd buy myself a grey guitar and play. ==========================================================================
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d73a,b372b0696c2ecb69 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d73a,public X-Google-Thread: 1049ea,b372b0696c2ecb69 X-Google-Attributes: gid1049ea,public X-Google-Thread: 114f31,b372b0696c2ecb69 X-Google-Attributes: gid114f31,public From: Dan Wojciechowski <Dan.R.Wojciechowski@lucent.com> Subject: Re: IBM or Mac for young child? Date: 1996/10/10 Message-ID: <325CF9CD.3BA7@lucent.com> X-Deja-AN: 188483592 references: <5325bbINNr91@duncan.cs.utk.edu> <STEVE.96Oct4205117@central.starport.COM> <538tq5$gbj@hermes.louisville.edu> <01bbb653$1d9d27c0$94089ace@yinon> content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: Lucent Technologies - Bell Laboratories mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: misc.kids.computer,can.schoolnet.chat.teachers,k12.chat.teacher x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.3 sun4m)