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Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe

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From: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:22
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KStahl wrote:

> Eric Johnson wrote:
> 
>>On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl"
>><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Eric Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl"
>>>><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Peter H. Proctor" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ironic,   that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of
>>>>>>gummit programs,  the War on Drugs...
>>>>>
>>>>>Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered.
>>>>
>>>>He hasn't surrendered.
>>>
>>>You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my
>>>statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which
>>>you have no empirical support. Big difference.
>>
>>If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be
>>all over the news if it had taken place.
>>
>>And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself.
>>
>>EJ
> 
> 
> Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of
> the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around
> drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to
> become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender
> and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I
> spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also
> applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It
> was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was
> misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you
> will do the same.

I don't accept your tortured definition of "surrender", 
either.  In fact, it's nonsense.  The "war on drugs" is 
not being waged primarily against drug users, although 
plenty of the are victims of the misguided, expensive, 
ineffectual pseudo-"war".  The war is being waged 
primarily against drug producers, distributors and 
retailers, i.e., against the supply chain.

The intent of the foolish "war on drugs" is to stop the 
distribution and consumption of "illicit" drugs.  In 
that context, a surrender can mean one of two things: 
a) a supplier stops supplying; b) a user stops using. 
The tortured meaning you gave is exactly the opposite 
of b), and is a nonsense meaning.

The involvement of the fascist loudmouth Limbaugh in 
illegal drugs is just another example of the hypocrisy 
of finger-wagging extremists.  That there's something 
to this is beyond doubt, based on the fascist swine's 
statement to the "folks" about there being more to this 
than they'll want to know.
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