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In article <RJKdnQNnjc9LbdPRnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 mrmcafee <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote:

> Billy wrote:
> > In article <0MCdnV4aebO2A9DRnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >  mrmcafee <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> Jim wrote:
> >>> Billy wrote:
> >>> [....]
> >>>> Misdirection again, away from the real criminals who are concentrated in
> >>>> Washington D.C. and Wall Street, to the bread crumb sin variety, trying
> >>>> to feed their families. Immigrants aren't $tealing trillion$ of dollar$,
> >>>> folks. The people $tealing trillionS of dollar$ are investment bankers,
> >>>> the military-industrial complex, and their "bought and paid" for
> >>>> politicians in both parties, the Kleptocrats. Ain't nothin gonna change
> >>>> without campaign-finance reform, re-installment of Glass-Steagall act,
> >>>> and the sheep get off their asses and demand change. Otherwise,
> >>>> --
> >>>> - Billy
> >>> but but but the sheepeople love their gubberment. 
> >>
> >> We do. We much prefer it to the libertarian system employed in Somalia.
> >>
> >>
> >>> lol
> > 
> > Somalia has no central government, it is partitioned among warlord. 
> > Whereas here, the central government is unified in its support for 
> > corporations, and those who own stock in them.
> 
> 
> As well as support for unions and for Grandmas. Our government is the 
> reason we can progress as a civilization. If you want to see the results 
> of libertarian 
Funny, my dictionary describes a libertarian as : a person who advocates 
civil liberty
You don't support civil liberty? Hmmm. Odd. I don't remember ever 
hearing tell of a libertarian government. Bolivia under Evo Morales, 
maybe.
> style political philosphy, look to Somalia. 
Somalia, of course is an area, like Afghanistan that is ruled by 
competing warlords. There almost an unity of government (Islamic Courts 
Union), but it was one that was unacceptable to western powers, and it 
wasn't allowed to unify the country because of the introduction of US 
supported Kenyan and Ethiopian troops (land grabs don'cha' know)

> Take a lesson
> from Lebanon during the Eighties. 
 Lebanon was twice invaded and occupied by the Israel Defense Forces 
(IDF) in 1978 and 1982,[36] with the PLO expelled in the second 
invasion. Israel remained in control of Southern Lebanon until 2000, 
when there was a general decision, led by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud 
Barak, to withdraw because of continuous attacks executed by Hezbollah, 
and a belief that the violence would diminish and dissolve without the 
Israeli presence in Lebanon.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon#Civil_war_and_beyond>
I'm sure we all remember the Israel bombing apartment house in Beirut. 
The war was to install a pro western government, Israeli backed (US 
supported) Shia/Maronite coalition, in opposition to the Sunnis.
"The Israeli-Maronite alliance was shattered, and Sharon's goal of 
installing a pro-Israel Christian government in Beirut was not 
accomplished.[83] 850,000 Christians would emigrate during the Civil 
War, most of them permanently."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War>


> Everyplace government breaks down, 
> anarchy takes place and freedom is gone except for the strong and the 
> ruthless. 
So, you're recommending colonial governments then, right?
> There is a reason there are no communist nor libertarian 
> societies of any size in the world. They are unnatural.
> in Somalia

You really gibber a lot, don't you
-- 
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the 
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/28/naomi_klein_the_real_crime_scene