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On Nov 1, 8:44 pm, not the moderator <phanta...@que.mx> wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
> > not the moderator wrote:
> >> Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>> not the moderator wrote:
> >>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >>>>> Larry in AZ wrote:
> >>>>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.net> said:
> >>>>>>> Larry in AZ wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
> >>>>>>>> <pi...@thedismalscience.net> said:
>
> >>>>>>>>> That's a pretty far cry from the 10 million (minimum) illegal
> >>>>>>>>> aliens working in the country today, not to mention another 10
> >>>>>>>>> million or so of their non-working illegal alien relatives.  
> >>>>>>>>> The bracero program also was just that:  a government
> >>>>>>>>> sanctioned and regulated program.  Despite all the hysterical
> >>>>>>>>> anti-immigrant sentiment from some, I think the large majority
> >>>>>>>>> of Americans would approve of a regulated guest worker program,
> >>>>>>>>> provided it didn't lead to some kind of fast  track to
> >>>>>>>>> permanent residence.
> >>>>>>>> You bring up a much neglected point.  Most of the illegals here
> >>>>>>>> are NOT
> >>>>>>>> working.  Even Rick Sanchez in some of his CNN reporting (usually
> >>>>>>>> biased toward immigrant Hispanics) admits this is true.
>
> >>>>>>>> Recently, he was interviewing mostly Mexican day laborers who
> >>>>>>>> claimed
> >>>>>>>> that they were lucky to get a day or two per week.  Most hang
> >>>>>>>> out at
> >>>>>>>> the pick- up points, but go home without any work.
>
> >>>>>>>> Yet, the tidal wave continues.  The news that there is not
> >>>>>>>> enough employment here hasn't filtered down there yet.
>
> >>>>>>>> Or perhaps it's better to be unemployed on the streets of the
> >>>>>>>> USA than
> >>>>>>>> to be in the same position in Mexico and farther south...
> >>>>>>> Those illegal aliens who work in agriculture tend to stay busy
> >>>>>>> throughout the growing season and harvest seasons.  Keep in mind
> >>>>>>> that many illegal alien workers in urban areas don't seek work at
> >>>>>>> day labor sites, but have regular jobs.
>
> >>>>>> We know that.  My point was the large numbers who do not, and
> >>>>>> cannot find work.
>
> >>>>> I have no idea what percentage that is of the total population of
> >>>>> illegal alien workers and job seekers, and I doubt you have any
> >>>>> better idea of it than I have.
>
> >>>>>> The pro-illegals claim they're all working here and contributing.  
> >>>>>> That's simply not true.  Not even close...
>
> >>>>> Most of those long-term illegal aliens who are here to work must by
> >>>>> definition be doing at least as well as they could in Mexico or
> >>>>> elsewhere, or else they'd return there.  Understand that illegal
> >>>>> aliens don't qualify for welfare or subsidized housing, so if
> >>>>> they're not working enough at least to buy food and housing,
> >>>>> they're probably not staying.
>
> >>>> Their anchor babies do.
>
> >>> That's not going to be enough to allow them to live here.
>
> >>>>> There are studies out there that look at employment patterns among
> >>>>> illegal aliens.  I haven't read them, but I strongly suspect that
> >>>>> most would show that able-bodied adult male illegal aliens average
> >>>>> more than half time employment.
>
> >>>> Strongly suspect isn't research. Research proves that the illegals
> >>>> drain our social welfare systems and bankrupt hospitals,
>
> >>> Research shows nothing of the kind regarding the social welfare
> >>> system, and while some hospitals have been severely financially
> >>> damaged due to having to provide uncompensated emergency care to
> >>> illegal aliens, they had lots of other financial difficulties as
> >>> well.  No one has ever "proved" that a single hospital has closed as
> >>> a result of providing emergency care to illegal aliens, even if
> >>> providing that care did play a role.
>
> >>>> spread disease and commit crimes.
>
> >>> They do neither of these any more than citizens.
>
> >>> I'm not defending illegal immigration.  I'm merely your hysterical
> >>> misstatements - that's another word for lies - apart.
>
> >> Evidently you've missed the resurgence of polio, TB, and now staph
> >> infections from the shit skins.
>
> > Most of that comes from legal immigrants from Asia.
>
> It comes more from illegal Mexicans invading our schools, hospitals and
> public places.

No, it doesn't.

You're ignorant.