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Larry in AZ wrote:
> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza
> <pipes@thedismalscience.net> said: 
> 
>> Larry in AZ wrote:
>>> Waiving the right to remain silent, Rudy Canoza 
>>> <pipes@thedismalscience.net> said:
>>>
>>>> That's a pretty far cry from the 10 million (minimum) 
>>>> illegal aliens working in the country today, not to 
>>>> mention another 10 million or so of their non-working 
>>>> illegal alien relatives.  The bracero program also was 
>>>> just that:  a government sanctioned and regulated 
>>>> program.  Despite all the hysterical anti-immigrant 
>>>> sentiment from some, I think the large majority of 
>>>> Americans would approve of a regulated guest worker 
>>>> program, provided it didn't lead to some kind of fast  track to
>>>> permanent residence. 
>>> You bring up a much neglected point.  Most of the illegals here are NOT
>>> working.  Even Rick Sanchez in some of his CNN reporting (usually
>>> biased toward immigrant Hispanics) admits this is true.
>>>
>>> Recently, he was interviewing mostly Mexican day laborers who claimed
>>> that they were lucky to get a day or two per week.  Most hang out at
>>> the pick- up points, but go home without any work.
>>>
>>> Yet, the tidal wave continues.  The news that there is not enough 
>>> employment here hasn't filtered down there yet.
>>>
>>> Or perhaps it's better to be unemployed on the streets of the USA than
>>> to be in the same position in Mexico and farther south... 
>> Those illegal aliens who work in agriculture tend to 
>> stay busy throughout the growing season and harvest 
>> seasons.  Keep in mind that many illegal alien workers 
>> in urban areas don't seek work at day labor sites, but 
>> have regular jobs.
> 
> We know that.  My point was the large numbers who do not, and cannot find 
> work.

I have no idea what percentage that is of the total 
population of illegal alien workers and job seekers, 
and I doubt you have any better idea of it than I have.


> The pro-illegals claim they're all working here and contributing.  That's 
> simply not true.  Not even close...

Most of those long-term illegal aliens who are here to 
work must by definition be doing at least as well as 
they could in Mexico or elsewhere, or else they'd 
return there.  Understand that illegal aliens don't 
qualify for welfare or subsidized housing, so if 
they're not working enough at least to buy food and 
housing, they're probably not staying.

There are studies out there that look at employment 
patterns among illegal aliens.  I haven't read them, 
but I strongly suspect that most would show that 
able-bodied adult male illegal aliens average more than 
half time employment.