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DID YOU KNOW...how to squelch Mr. Spalthoff?

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From: Sandra D.Helbig
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:00
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Dear Geoff:

You sort of missed the point.  Don't take a quote out of context.

The point for all that missed it was the irony and hypocrisy of an
employee of AT&T objecting to any type of advertising activities.

That you don't like spam is OK.  You have a right not to like spam.  I
have a right to like spam.  We can even agree to disagree on the
subject.

And don't you think Mr. Spalthoff should have revealed his relationship
with a competitor of the internet providers he was challenging?

Sandra D. Helbig
lawpage@access.digex.net

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From: geoff@netcom.com (Geoffrey Leach)
Subject: Re:
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:06:22 GMT

helbig@ix.netcom.com(Sandra D.Helbig) writes:

>Come off it.  Commercial endeavors pay the bills.  Spamming pays your
>salary.  Spam is good.  Spam is great. The vast majority of people on
>the web are engaged in for profit endeavors.  You would recognize this
>too if you had any real world experience outside your corporate
>culture.  These people who are spamming have more going for them than
>you ever will.

Such nonsense.  Sigh.

First.  Unsolicited telephone solicitation (referred to as "spam" in
the post) is frowned upon by the FTC.  Callres are _required_ to 
cease calling you if you request them to.  They can be prosecuted
for not doing so.

Second.  Unsolicited commercial email and similar postings to
newsgroups
do not "pay the freight".  They are, in factm theft of system resources
by the poster.  Their cost to all parts of the Internet _other_ that
the poster
is considerable.  On to of that, many, like myself, have a committment 
never to patronize a company that engages in such practices.
-- 
Geoffrey Leach          C/C++/X11/Motif Implementation
geoff@netcom.com        Mountain Ranch Software
			12846 Whiskey Slide Road
                        Mountain Ranch CA  95246-0336
                        209-754-1869
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From: helbig@ix.netcom.com(Sandra D.Helbig)
Subject: DID YOU KNOW...how to squelch Mr. Spalthoff?
Date: 1996/11/23
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