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Re: The Legal Right To Refuse To Pay Taxes

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From: Fred Williams
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:00
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Daniel J. Lavigne wrote:
> 
> fmackan@interlog.com (Francis Mackan) wrote:
> 
> >taxfree@planeteer.com (Daniel J. Lavigne) writes:
> 
> >Thanks Dennis! I would say ๏ฟฝSend another!๏ฟฝ; but,
> >in view of a "Practice Restricted To Tax" type joining the whine, it
> >seems as if Revenue
> >Canada's predictions are correct. Their
> >statement to me: "So what, stand alone,
> >we don't care. As for the rest, they'll
> >stick with the devil they know."
> 
> >That statement was predicated, in part, on a
> >belief that few people involved in the tax
> >planning and preparation industry would
> >disclose to their clients that a process
> >now existed by which conscientious objectors
> >to war and preparations for war could
> >lawfully opt out of paying taxes to a
> >society that helped to perpetuate the
> >insanity of plans and preparations involving
> >the will and the capacity to commit mass murder.
> 
> Uuuhhhhhh, yah.....Michael..how fast can we get a moderated group?  If
> this
> craziness persists, I'm just going to stop visiting can.taxes. 
	<snip>
> Francis Mackan
> 
	This seems right on topic for can.taxes to me.  I've deleted some of
the other groups in this re-posting, like talk.environment, which might
only be remotely connected.   FW.
	<snip>

	I typed this far, and tried to send the posting, but apparently there
is some rule that I must include more new text than included text. 
Since snipping any more of the history might make this unintelligable to
anyone who has not been following this thread avidly, my only option is
to enter more text, or be silenced.
	The subject of war taxes is one that I have considered occasionally
over the past several years.  I am a Quaker in the traditional sense,
and most of you will have the wrong idea of what that means, but it
means at least that I am a pacifist.  I will not join an army and even
prepare to kill anyone.  So if my philosophy is to be consistant, I must
seek to not pay taxes, (see, I'm still on topic), to a government that
does these things.
	Now there is the Peace Tax movement which calculates how much of our
tax dollars goes to the military, and puts that percentage of their
taxes in trust.  Then they sit back and wait for the government to take
them to court.  It's symbolic, but court decisions, if they are
favourable, could change the laws for everyone.
	Now, it is not clear what is a military expense andwhat is not a
military expense.  For instance, what about pensions paid to civil
servents who previously worked for the Dept. of National Defence? 
Arethey included in the calculations.  It may be immaterial since it is
a symbolic action anyway,and witholding of any portion of you tax
dollars is likely to get Revenue Canada's shorts in a knot.
	I ask myself this question, If you owe 10,000 dollars and you withold
2000 dollars, isn't the same percentage of the 8000 dollars you pay
going to go for war preparations?  I don't think any of us with a good
conscience can give a red cent to a government that maintains an army. 
How's that for radical?
	Since 1987, I've been doing my part, and doing it perfectly legally.  I
don't earn more than my basic exemption and so I have not payed one cent
in taxes.  That may change soon, because there is a limit to how long I
can do this, but being next to broke is a small price to pay for a clean
conscience.  Of course, I can't claim all the credit.  There were times
when I might have been tempted to make more if somebody had offered.
	There, I wonder if I've typed enough to get this accepted now!?!
-- 
"Old Soldiers never die,...young ones do."  - source unknown

					Peace, Syblings,
					Fred Williams,
					Fred@acbm.qc.ca
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From: Fred Williams <Fred@acbm.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: The Legal Right To Refuse To Pay Taxes
Date: 1996/10/24
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