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Article #3875A thorny question
From: Jamie R. McCarthy
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:24
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:24
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g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu (Rosemary Waigh) writes: > >I know no one my age who rejects the semantically singular "they", except >perhaps in extremely formal writing. Could we perhaps be seeing a spreading >of "they" analogous to the replacement of "thou" (singular) by "you" (plural)? Hm, interesting thought. I heard once that we have the "ye" in "Ye Olde Coffeee Shoppe" because, back in Olden Days, a character called the "thorn" was commonly used for "th." It looked like "|>": a vertical line with a triangle stuck to its side. When the printing press became common, the story goes, printers would substitute a "y" for the thorn (don't ask me, er, why). I also heard once that, back in Olden Days, English did indeed have a formal/plural "thee" and "thou." They, the 2nd person plurals, were used as formal 2nd person singulars, just as German (e.g.) still uses the 3rd person plural as a formal 2nd person singular. But when all the Olden people died, the impolite young'uns dropped the formal. Does anyone know which, if either, of these apocrypha is correct? [BTW, this is cross-posted to misc.test so it will actually leave this site; un-cross-posted a.u.e articles don't. Please respect the followup-to, or you'll unduly annoy all the misc.test readers. :-] -- Jamie McCarthy Internet: k044477@kzoo.edu AppleLink: j.mccarthy "This sounds like a semantico-psychological backwardization of the real world image." - Dave Bloom (bloomda@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu)
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Newsgroups: misc.test,alt.usage.english Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!caen!destroyer!gumby!kzoo!k044477 From: k044477@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Jamie R. McCarthy) Subject: A thorny question Message-ID: <1992Dec19.192451.25941@hobbes.kzoo.edu> Followup-To: poster Organization: Kalamazoo College Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:24:51 GMT Lines: 29