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Article #2574Re: Cheap wonderful UNIX boxes
From: Teletrafiksystem
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1987 19:56
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1987 19:56
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In article <6402@bu-cs.BU.EDU> bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> Does anyone know any inexpensive, even slowish, disks that
> can be hooked up to the SUN3/50 SCSI port?
>
> Off-the-cuff Requirements (try me!):
>
> 1. Probably at least 100MB.
>
> 2. By slowish (this isn't PC world) I mean, say, 35msec
> or thereabouts.
>
> 3. Nice if there were a tape option, even a mediocre one
> for occasional backups (I could UUCP incrementals.)
>
> 4. Price: Well, Sun's 141MB costs us $4830, half that
> would be worth considering. The 71MB is probably a
> little small for me, almost...
>
We have the following experience of using (non SUN) SCSI-disks on SUN 3/50:
Using a preformatted Micropolis 1375 (5 1/4"-disk, 170 Mbyte unformatted,
23 ms):
- The disk was labeled and set up using standard "diag" program
- Then it was just to mount it on the system and run it as a local disk.
- We also removed the SUN 3/50 from the fileserver and booted it from tape
(Archive 5945S, also SCSI) and built a unix-system on the Micropolis. It
worked out perfect. We also used the 3/50 as bootserver and fileserver
for another 3/50. It worked OK, however the disk is a bit to small
for this purpose. (With a bigger disk it seems to be a cheep way to
run 3/50(s) without a special fileserver.)
- We have NOT tried to reformat the disk, due to our experiense with the
Maxtor disk (see below).
Using a Maxtor 3170 (5 1/4", 170 Mbyte unformatted, 30 ms):
- We were not able to format the disk. The diag-program and the disk
seems to have different opinions on format commands. However we could
get contact with the disk. Any hints, pointers or programs to solve
the problem are welcome.
A 170 or 350 Mbyte disk plus a streamer tape station (all on SCSI) and
powersupply built in in a box have (in Sweden) approx one third of the
price from SUN.
The performance (on a low-loaded 3/50 with SCSI-disk) was approx the same as
using a SUN 180 as fileserver. We have not performed any deeper test-suites
to measure accesstime at heavy load or with a 3/50 as fileserver.
Please note the problem with using the diag-program to format the disk,
anyone out there that can help us with that?
Richard Niklasson, Dept of Communication Systems, Lund Institute of Technology,
SWEDEN
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!mcvax!enea!agaton!tts From: tts@agaton.lu.se (Teletrafiksystem) Newsgroups: misc.wanted,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Cheap wonderful UNIX boxes Message-ID: <2306@agaton.lu.se> Date: Mon, 20-Apr-87 15:56:42 EDT Article-I.D.: agaton.2306 Posted: Mon Apr 20 15:56:42 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Apr-87 05:18:26 EDT References: <791@kodak.UUCP> <6402@bu-cs.BU.EDU> Reply-To: rn@erlang.sunet.se Distribution: world Organization: Dept. of Communication Systems, University of Lund, Sweden Lines: 64