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Article #3054Re: Multivendor network backup for unix workstations
From: Martyn Johnson
Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 16:53
Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 16:53
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In article <1992May19.020223.16714@decuac.dec.com>, mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "will do TCP/IP for food" Ranum) writes: ... |> *ahem* anyhow - I've noticed that tools like NSR or Networker |> should cause users to shift their backup paradigms. ... |> On my machines I have been doing nothing but incrementals |> for over a year and a half. I haven't ever recycled a tape. I now |> have 16 of them. ... |> Typically if I need to recover something, the odds |> are high that it's on the tape already in the drive. ... |> Comments? |> |> mjr. Well, it all depends on why you are taking backups. Your arguments seem very sound, provided you assume that: - The main reason you take backups is to recover from human error. - Discs occasionally fail. - All your tapes are perfectly safe. However, people also take backups to protect against disasters such as fire. It's no good having all your recent backups "in the drive" if you lose the whole machine in some catastrophe. Also tapes sometimes do go bad. The higher the recording density, the more you stand to lose if one does. The existence of devices such as the Exabyte and DAT certainly has changed my outlook on backups. I can afford to take complete dumps more often and keep more of them. Backup "requirements" have increased enormously, simply because it is now possible to do more! Of course, it would be nice to have all the backups indexed AS WELL, I don't deny that. Martyn Johnson maj@cl.cam.ac.uk University of Cambridge Computer Lab Cambridge UK
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d023,db8056cc53e3f22 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d023,public X-Google-Thread: f48e5,db8056cc53e3f22 X-Google-Attributes: gidf48e5,public X-Google-Thread: f9532,db8056cc53e3f22 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9532,public X-Google-Thread: f8ff0,db8056cc53e3f22 X-Google-Attributes: gidf8ff0,public X-Google-Thread: 1164f8,db8056cc53e3f22 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164f8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-05-19 06:13:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!uknet!cam-cl!cam-cl!maj From: maj@cl.cam.ac.uk (Martyn Johnson) Newsgroups: misc.wanted,aus.wanted,comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.sun.wanted Subject: Re: Multivendor network backup for unix workstations Message-ID: <1992May19.165350.1975@cl.cam.ac.uk> Date: 19 May 92 16:53:50 GMT References: <1992May15.175312.3592@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <1992May16.000918.7220@odin.corp.sgi.com> <1992May18.230822.1368@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> <1992May19.020223.16714@decuac.dec.com> Sender: news@cl.cam.ac.uk (The news facility) Reply-To: maj@cl.cam.ac.uk (Martyn Johnson) Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK Lines: 42