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FL.FORSALE censorship (was Re: Those goddamn car ads and what to do about them)

#241
From: Michael Schneider
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 00:00
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I received the following email the other day.

It appears that someome out there thinks fl.forsale is their private playground.


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From: cancel.watch@prime.org (Cancel Watch)
To: msch19@mail.idt.net
Subject: (fwd) cmsg cancel <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 14:41:19 GMT
Reply-To: cancel.watch@prime.org
MIME-Version: 1.0


   AN ARTICLE YOU PUBLISHED WAS DELETED (CENSORED) FROM USENET

(We had NOTHING to do with censoring your article!) This is only being sent 
to you as a community service because we are OPPOSED to the censorship.  
We are not aware of the content or purpose of your article, only that it 
was canceled by someone without any authority to do so.

uu.net appears to be knowingly cooperating with the article cancelers
after receiving repeated notice of their activities.  You may wish
to consider uu.net an accessory in any legal action that you take in
this matter.

The following article appeared in the usenet control group.  This means the
article you published was censored from the usenet by some hacker trash
in Florida who fancy themselves the owners of public newsgroups.   Some
of the trash sites with such tendencies are reviewed at:
 
http://www.prime.org/cwatch.htm

I am sending you this because I am also a past victim of illegal 
censorship.  Some fancy themselves owner and policeman of various public 
usenet newsgroups.  They have no authority whatsoever to remove articles.

You may or may not wish to take any legal action, but I felt you should
be aware that you were being censored.  You should be able to do a search of
the control group (a newsgroup called "control") and find this cancel for 
yourself (if you hurry and do it as they do not remain there very long).
The information you see here (below) in the cancel message is "hidden" so 
you would need to have your newsreader set to show hidden information.  

I believe this censorship is a civil rights violation. You may or may not 
wish to complain about being censored in the news.admin.net-abuse.misc 
usenet newsgroup, but I believe that it will take legal action to stop 
them and others from deleting other people's publications at their
whim and fancy.  
                                                      
Here is the actual control message that deleted your article from usenet:



Path:
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Newsgroups: fl.forsale
Control: cancel <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
From: MegaBot@megalith.miami.fl.us (Arexx AutoBot)
Reply-To: cancelbot-admin@megalith.miami.fl.us
Subject: cmsg cancel <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
Sender: msch19@mail.idt.net (Michael Schneider)
Message-ID: <cancel.msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
X-Cancelled-By: MegaBot@megalith.miami.fl.us (Arexx AutoBot)
X-NewsSoftware: Arexx MegaBot 1.7A
X-No-Archive: Yes
X-Cancel-Mode: Auto
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 06:19:55 -0500 (EST)
Distribution: fl
Organization: Megalith Mail/News Server - Miami, FL USA
Lines: 12

 Remove <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net> From fl.forsale
 Article Originally Posted to Newsgroup(s)
mn.forsale,wi.forsale,ia.market,ca.forsale,md.forsale,fl.forsale,ny.forsale,ga.forsale,ms.forsale,mi.forsale,me.forsale,wa.forsale,dc.forsale,pe.forsale,pn.forsale,nj.forsale,etc.adnausium
 With Subject "RE: THOSE GODDAMN CAR ADS AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM...."

 Reason:
  ECRP Violations within fl.groups are not tolerated.  Limit 3 ECRP Count 9
  fl.forsale is for LOCAL, non-commercial (As are all fl.groups) items for
sale.
  fl.jobs is for REGIONAL JOB OFFERINGS not MMF, MLM\'s or jobs in other
regions.
  ECP, EMP and ECRP Violations are Enforced. ** ECP - Excessive Crossposting
** 
  ** EMP - Excessive Multi-Postings ** ECRP - Excessive Cross Regional
Postings **

This article canceled by an automated AREXX Script

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Newsgroups: fl.forsale
Control: cancel <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
From: MegaBot@megalith.miami.fl.us (Arexx AutoBot)
Reply-To: cancelbot-admin@megalith.miami.fl.us
Subject: cmsg cancel <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
Sender: msch19@mail.idt.net (Michael Schneider)
Message-ID: <cancel.msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net>
X-Cancelled-By: MegaBot@megalith.miami.fl.us (Arexx AutoBot)
X-NewsSoftware: Arexx MegaBot 1.7A
X-No-Archive: Yes
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MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 06:19:55 -0500 (EST)
Distribution: fl
Organization: Megalith Mail/News Server - Miami, FL USA
Lines: 12
X-Agent-Group: control

 Remove <msch19-0612960226150001@dial001.skypoint.net> From fl.forsale
 Article Originally Posted to Newsgroup(s)
mn.forsale,wi.forsale,ia.market,ca.forsale,md.forsale,fl.forsale,ny.forsale,ga.forsale,ms.forsale,mi.forsale,me.forsale,wa.forsale,dc.forsale,pe.forsale,pn.forsale,nj.forsale,etc.adnausium
 With Subject "RE: THOSE GODDAMN CAR ADS AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM...."

 Reason:
  ECRP Violations within fl.groups are not tolerated.  Limit 3 ECRP Count 9
  fl.forsale is for LOCAL, non-commercial (As are all fl.groups) items for sale.
  fl.jobs is for REGIONAL JOB OFFERINGS not MMF, MLM\'s or jobs in other
regions.
  ECP, EMP and ECRP Violations are Enforced. ** ECP - Excessive Crossposting ** 
  ** EMP - Excessive Multi-Postings ** ECRP - Excessive Cross Regional
Postings **

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From: msch19@mail.idt.net (Michael Schneider)
Subject: FL.FORSALE censorship (was Re: Those goddamn car ads and what to do about them)
Date: 1996/12/08
Message-ID: <msch19-0812960320390001@dial012.skypoint.net>
X-Deja-AN: 202997526
references: <32a49844.0@206.152.61.33> <msch19-0412960602040001@dial002.skypoint.net> <58b1ju$ela@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
organization: Galt's Gulch Gaming Group
newsgroups: mn.forsale,wi.forsale,ia.market,ca.forsale,md.forsale,fl.forsale,ny.forsale,ga.forsale,ms.forsale,mi.forsale,me.forsale,wa.forsale,dc.forsale,pe.forsale,pn.forsale,nj.forsale,etc.adnausium