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What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?

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From: A. Cosar
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:15
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In article <1992Dec28.155248.26677@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi.umn.edu writes:
>> 55454?????  Since there is no "net police" (THANK GOD) what are we
>> supposed to do about it?
>
>Please read my entire message (i.e. don't just quote the whole thing
>;).  I said I'm assuming the sysadmin at anatolia is ignorant of
>netiquette and could use a gentle reminder to check out the messages in
>news.announce.newusers.  

Wat makes YOU 'assume' so?

>Ignorant until proven obnoxious, I say! :)

You are both, that's for sure.

>Although there are no ``net police'' (and I would disagree with that;
>they just aren't as overt as you would think), there are accepted norms
>of behavior on the net.  i.e. don't post business ads on the net except
>in biz.*.  

One of those 'accepted norms' must be to contact the person before
running to newsgroups with 'obnoxious assumptions'.

>People regularly overstep these conventions, and are subsequently
>flamed by everyone and their brother.  I have seen only a few isolated
>instances where the person _knew better_ but was being obnoxious
>anyway; in most of the cases I have seen, once the poster was informed
>what convention was (and why it was so), they would cease and desist.

Isn't this what people call a 'straw-man argument?'

>So far, people trying to contact either the sysadmin at anatolia or
>Serdar Argic have been utterly unsuccessful.  I'd like to see if anyone
>knows either one of them or knows how to contact them, by phone, in
>person, at a UUM meeting, whatever.  That's what I'm trying to
>accomplish here.

What do you mean by 'utterly unsuccesful?' That I have refused to
silence their opponent? Yes, some people have been 'utterly unsuccessful'
in doing that, one being the so-called 'postmaster' of UIUC.EDU who
does junk-mailing in violation of the laws of this country. What is
more shamelessly using the equipment of a state university for
harrassing the very same people who pay for that university and
Paul Pomes' wages with their taxes. And, yes I exposed this sorry
'postmaster' in news.admin.policy with his FULLY-AUTOMATED-JUNK-
MAILING-SYSTEM.

Send me an e-mail if you want to learn more, if you know how to use
mail, that is ...

>-- 
>Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support
>SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F
>               just another elitist Usenet administrator


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   A.Cosar                                                                      ________________________________________________________________________                
Disc space -- the final frontier!                                               ________________________________________________________________________

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