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Article #231What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''?
From: A. Cosar
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:15
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:15
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In article <1992Dec28.155248.26677@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi.umn.edu writes: >> 55454????? Since there is no "net police" (THANK GOD) what are we >> supposed to do about it? > >Please read my entire message (i.e. don't just quote the whole thing >;). I said I'm assuming the sysadmin at anatolia is ignorant of >netiquette and could use a gentle reminder to check out the messages in >news.announce.newusers. Wat makes YOU 'assume' so? >Ignorant until proven obnoxious, I say! :) You are both, that's for sure. >Although there are no ``net police'' (and I would disagree with that; >they just aren't as overt as you would think), there are accepted norms >of behavior on the net. i.e. don't post business ads on the net except >in biz.*. One of those 'accepted norms' must be to contact the person before running to newsgroups with 'obnoxious assumptions'. >People regularly overstep these conventions, and are subsequently >flamed by everyone and their brother. I have seen only a few isolated >instances where the person _knew better_ but was being obnoxious >anyway; in most of the cases I have seen, once the poster was informed >what convention was (and why it was so), they would cease and desist. Isn't this what people call a 'straw-man argument?' >So far, people trying to contact either the sysadmin at anatolia or >Serdar Argic have been utterly unsuccessful. I'd like to see if anyone >knows either one of them or knows how to contact them, by phone, in >person, at a UUM meeting, whatever. That's what I'm trying to >accomplish here. What do you mean by 'utterly unsuccesful?' That I have refused to silence their opponent? Yes, some people have been 'utterly unsuccessful' in doing that, one being the so-called 'postmaster' of UIUC.EDU who does junk-mailing in violation of the laws of this country. What is more shamelessly using the equipment of a state university for harrassing the very same people who pay for that university and Paul Pomes' wages with their taxes. And, yes I exposed this sorry 'postmaster' in news.admin.policy with his FULLY-AUTOMATED-JUNK- MAILING-SYSTEM. Send me an e-mail if you want to learn more, if you know how to use mail, that is ... >-- >Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support >SGI Iris Admin molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu DoD #1867 '77 CB750F > just another elitist Usenet administrator -- A.Cosar ________________________________________________________________________ Disc space -- the final frontier! ________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disclaimer: I speak for myself<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Newsgroups: mn.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!ulysses!cosar From: cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (A. Cosar) Subject: What is it that you want to learn ``Jason Molenda''? Message-ID: <1992Dec29.211520.14764@news2.cis.umn.edu> Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: ulysses.cs.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept. References: <1992Dec28.061616.23775@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1992Dec28.121741.25344@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1992Dec28.155248.26677@news2.cis.umn.edu> Distribution: mn Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:15:20 GMT Lines: 61