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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:50:16 GMT, "Mapi" <Mapi@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Kung Fuzi" <airkings@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:3B6618AC.5541@ix.netcom.com...
> >> x-no-archive: yes
> >>
> >> Werner wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Don't loose hope yet.  I've noticed over the last several years that
> >> > people have started awakening to these issues.  I don't know if it's
> >> > a natural swing back to conservatism,
> >>
> >> And it's about damned time. The liberals have created and perpetuated
> >> social ills in the USA which may never be remedied in my lifetime.
> >> Conservatives need to keep in mind that it's not about right and left,
> >> it's about right and wrong.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> airkings@ix.netcom.com
> >>
> >
> >Yes, but it's too late.
> >
> >The liberals took America during it's heydey, when it was at it's
acendency
> >and it's strongest and richest, and gutting the insides out of us by
> >destroying our schools, the black race, the american middle and upper
middle
> >class and our housing, trade and international affairs.
> >
> >No one in the world trusts us anymore, little pisspot dictatorships piss
on
> >us and China, with 3 scraggldy-assed crummy nuk subs and about 300 small
nuk
> >missles that can't even reach Alaska push us around and shoot down our
> >planes.
> >We used to be number one in education, riches, savings, money, health,
> >longevity and a whole lot more.
> >In the space of only 30 years we've sunk to near bottom levels on all
fronts
> >amongst the industrialized western nations.
> >
> >We're a has been, and it's 90% of the liberal democrat's fault and their
> >heyday from 1975 through 1994 that destroyed our nation.
> >
> >We've shot our wad and we'll never be a great nation again, unless,
unless
> >we use our quickly fading and rapidly going obsolete huge military
arsenal
> >to take over Saudi Arabia, Mexico, and kick the shit out of China,
Russia,
> >Iraq and Iran right now.
> >
> >In 20 years it will be too late.
> >Every pisspot dictatorship will have cheap intercontinental ballistic
> >missiles and a cheap easily made nuk weapons or CBW weapons.
> >
> >
> >mapi
> >
> >
>
> Very sad, but you speak some truth.  I have believe strongly for
> sometime that China will be the world superpower in the future, not
> the US.
>
> We complain about imigrants, in particular, Mexican illegals.  Fact is
> it helps our workforce grow.  We Americans have resorted to
> birthcontrol and abortion to control the inconvenience of having
> children.  That is fine.  But ... with that decision comes a lack of
> population growth.  Also fine, except from a military and economic
> standpoint, countries with a higher population have an awesome
> advantage.  More labor resources and more military resources.  China
> has all the ingredients to be a huge power and India is just a step
> behind.
>
> Our grandchildren will be emigrating to China for the "Chinese Dream".
> Wait and see.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy71@yahoo.com

I have to disagree with you about population.

The world has finite resources.  Already Japan, America and many other
countries are in a decline
due to having to import most of their raw materials to turn into goods.
This is a population problem.  The more consumers means more goods means
more raw materials means
having to spend more and more money for ever decreasing amounts of material
that are ever increasing in price as they get scarcer.
This in turn leads to higher cost per units which leads to a lower standard
of living, and when you increase the population you have to spread out the
goods and services in a decreasing economy and increasing prices amongst
increasing amount of people.
This basically means the slices of pie keep getting smaller and smaller.

China is scary to me only in the respect that they are a tightly controlled
dictatorship that can effectively manage their massive population growth,
and they have.
A stable population means a wonderful economy, and increasing riches for
every inhabitant if managed correctly.
Mexico and Brazil are perfect examples of what increasing population growth
does to a county.  If Mexico couldn't ship 20 million of it's overabundance
of citizens to the USA so we would feed, care, clothe them and provide
medical care and retirement funds to them, Mexico would be in flames right
now.  Brazil is going to start having wars with Argentina and Venezuela as
they rapidly cut down the last remaining forests in the Amazon and then have
to expand to neighboring countries in about the year 2010 I believe.  Brazil
and Argentina both have the bomb too and so having a 100 million man army
means nothing when one airburst will do the trick.
Nuclear weapons are the new "equalizer" that Sam Colt envisioned for women
and little guys who bought his repeater.

Just look at Indonesia, India, and many other countries with lots of natural
resources but way too many people.  A few get filthy rich exploiting these
resources because they know that sharing a gazillion dollars in assets
amongst 1 billion people just means a billion people will be a little less
poorer than yesterday.

The most stable and richest countries in the world are the ones who limit
immigration and have a stable population with little or no growth.
Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Costa Rica, Barbados, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand and others.
Many of these places even white, healthy, well-off young Americans with
skills can't even emigrate to.  They won't let them.  They're smart.
These countries have a stable economy, some of the best health care in the
world, the lowest crime, the best infrastructure, stable governments, and
more.

You've fallen into the siren trap of the multination, who are really mega
corps who only see the bottom line, in the idea that immigration and
increased population is a good thing.
The contray is is true.
More people = less wages = declining standard of living.

Hell, even in the USA we've slipped so far in our standard of living in the
last 30 years that it's only incredible to people who are actually old
enough to remember a 20% tax rate, a 2% sales tax, no toll roads, where a
man could work one job and the women stayed at home and he had a nice
vacation once a year and had the best medical care in the world, and saved
money and had real retirement funds when he retired.
Along with that we've had the biggest massive immigration since the Irish
invasion in the early 20th century.

Trouble is, we had plenty of jobs and plenty of room then.  We do not now.
Just take a look at a satellite nighttime photo of the world.
You'll see.

mapi