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Article #766Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
From: Commies4Kerry
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:17
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:17
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johndoe@example.com wrote : ... > President Bush is an imbecile, plain and simple. It showed in his > initial reaction to 9/11, it showed in the debates, it showed when he > attacked Iraq without proper preparation, it shows in his economic > policies. His entire presidency is littered with one misstep after > another. America is the laughing stock of the world thanks to him. That's right comrades! We must elect the candidate endorsed by CPUSA! Comrade Kerry! Only he will lead the fight for the overthrow of the capitalist running dogs USA and the establishment of global socialism! Communist Party USA ( CPUSA ) endorses Kerry: From: http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/590/1/56/ "It was no surprise to me that virtually everyone I met during a recent three-week trip across the Midwest was quick to remind me that this election is the most important in their lifetime. While agreeing that the overriding political task is to defeat Bush and his counterparts in Congress and elect Kerry and a more people-friendly Congress, no one reduced this to simply a contest between the Democratic and Republican parties. This election, they told me, will continue the nearly 24-year struggle against the forces of extreme political reaction who are now entrenched in the White House, Congress and Supreme Court - but with this difference: Nov. 2 could well mark a turning point for better or worse. A Bush victory would give the ultra-right a green light to ramp up their project to drastically and unilaterally reshape the domestic and international landscape in the interests of U.S. imperialism. On the other hand, a victory by Kerry and the broad democratic movement that supports him would be a body blow to the extreme right, bring some relief on bread and butter issues, and lift the siege on our nation's constitution. It also would create a much more favorable political terrain on which the people's movement could struggle for its agenda, beginning with an end to the occupation of Iraq. Thus the stakes are high, and what adds to the drama is that the electorate is so divided that the outcome will depend on which campaign is able to turn out the biggest vote. Given these circumstances, what should be the role of left and progressive people? It is not to parse every word, vet every speech, and scrutinize every statement of Kerry. Nor is it to damn Kerry with faint praise. Rather its main task, as I see it, is to bring into sharper focus the differences in the two lines of policy represented by Kerry and Bush, to delineate the vastly improved political playing field that a Kerry victory would bring, and, above all, to become involved in the grassroots efforts to mobilize the vote. In so doing, the left will help voters gain an understanding of the bigger picture, extend the practical efforts to reach the electorate, and enhance its connections to the main democratic organizations - connections which are critical to post-election struggles. Across the country there is a growing anti-Bush feeling, but that alone is not enough. To win requires that millions be convinced that the differences between Bush and Kerry are real, substantial and consequential to their lives on the whole range of issues: Social Security, Medicare, health care, overtime, minimum wage, public education, affirmative action, civil rights, reproductive rights, immigrant rights, gay rights, civil liberties, tax policy, environmental protection, Cuba, preemptive war, and nuclear weapons testing and use. Even on Iraq, there are differences between the two. But more importantly, the defeat of Bush would be a repudiation of his policies of war and occupation, and that could not be ignored by a Kerry administration. Thus, the remark heard in some left circles, "I will vote for Kerry but hold my nose," misses the point and is demobilizing. It may bring some momentary self-satisfaction to those expressing it. But it will do little to convince swing, undecided, or stay-at-home voters to go to the polls. In my experience, aside from right wing talk show hosts and their loyal listeners, few people believe that Kerry is a candidate of the left and progressive movement. Most know that he is closely tied to the U.S. ruling class and a defender of capitalism, as is Bush. That common class affiliation and fondness for the "free enterprise" system, however, doesn't prevent millions of voters from understanding that Kerry is a political centrist and espouses different policies than Bush. Nor does it keep them from realizing that a Kerry victory would give the broader movements more political leverage than they now have. The biggest danger in this election is not that people have unrealistic expectations of a Kerry administration, but rather that a substantial section of voters still believe that it doesn't make much of a difference who they vote for on Nov. 2. The responsibility of left and progressive people is not to spend their time bellyaching over Kerry's shortcomings, but to convince millions of people that there is a choice and that the outcome of this election will have enormous consequences for our nation's future. Sam Webb can be reached at vote2004 @ cpusa.org" And the Democratic Socialists of America endorse Kerry: http://www.dsausa.org/LatestNews/election04c.html "Socialists Urge Support for Kerry July 23, 2004 The Democratic Socialists of America Political Action Committee (DSAPAC) released a statement today urging its members to work for the election of John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election. "Kerry was hardly the first choice of our members. Most supported Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean in the Democratic primary elections and would be very critical of Senator Kerry's voting record on trade issues, as well as his support for the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq; but the most important concern of our members now is to defeat Bush," said Frank Llewellyn, the National Director of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). The DSAPAC statement was very critical of the current direction of the Democratic Party, lamenting the strength of the Democratic Leadership Council as compared to the Congressional Progressive Caucus in Party circles. But the statement condemned the much greater threat to the interests of the average American posed by Republican control of all three branches of government. The statement urged DSA members to participate in get-out-the-vote and voter education projects with other progressive organizations. "It is very important that progressive movements keep organizing and mobilizing so that we will be in a position to make demands on a new administration," Llewellyn continued. The Democratic Socialists of America is the largest socialist organization in the United States, with 5500 members and local organizations in most large cities. It is affiliated to the Socialist International, a federation of the world's socialist, social democratic and labor parties. The complete text of the DSAPAC statement can be viewed at: http://dsausa.org/dsapac ." Then: http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page= 20040604194804799 ( lots of photos: ) Communist Vietnamese honor John Kerry, the war protestor, as a hero in their victory over the United States in the Vietnam War -- Part II. On Memorial Day, May 31, 2004, Vietnam Vets for the Truth broke an extraordinary story about a photograph hanging in the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). The photograph, displayed in a room dedicated to foreign activists who contributed to the Communist victory over America in the Vietnam War, shows Senator John Kerry being greeted by Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph during the Memorial Day weekend in response to a general request for photographs and records detailing Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy. Vietnam Vets for the Truth has now further documented the photograph. Photographer Bill Lupetti returned to the War Remnants Museum in Saigon on June 2 at the request of Dr. Jerome Corsi, co-author of the original article, and photographed a current edition of the "Viet Nam News" next to the display honoring John Kerry. . Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam. Photo displayed in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon. The June 2, 2004, edition of "Viet Nam News" is held beside the Kerry photograph to confirm the date the photo was taken. English-language placard below photograph reads: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)." Dr. Corsi asked Mr. Lupetti to more thoroughly document the layout and scope of the museum, particularly the section featuring those foreign anti- war activists whom the Vietnamese communists wished to honor. He took a number of additional photos at the War Remnants Museum and elsewhere, several of which are presented below. Dr. Corsi also contacted Dan Tran of the Vietnam Human Rights Project, who asked associates in Saigon to go into the museum to make sure the photograph of John Kerry was actually there. Mr. Tran's contacts confirmed that the photograph is still in the museum. . Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Photo is displayed in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon. Dan Tran also asked his Vietnamese associates to get a more precise wording of the placards under the photo. Below are the English and French captions: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnam Communist Party met with Congressmen and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)" "Camarade Do Muoi -- Secr�taire General du Parti Communiste du Vietnam -- recevait une d�l�gation de S�nateurs et Anciens V�t�rans du Vietnam le 18 Juillet 1993" Bill Lupetti, who had served as a Navy corpsman working with Swift Boat sailors in An Thoi, was in Vietnam and happened upon the Kerry photo display while visiting the War Remnants Museum. Mr. Lupetti posted the photo to an album maintained on MyFamily.com by Swift Boat veteran Jim Deal that contains hundreds of Vietnam War era photos posted by participating Swift Boat veterans. One of those veterans, Bob Shirley, forwarded the Kerry photo to Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth in response to an Internet request for photographs documenting John Kerry's activities as a Naval officer and as an antiwar protestor. ---------- Several members of the mainstream media have questioned the authenticity of the photograph on the grounds that they have no proof that Senator Kerry was in Vietnam during July 15-18, 1993. According to a AP newswire report carried in The Chronicle-Telegram of Elyria, Ohio, on July 17, 1993, a US delegation headed by US Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Hershel Gober, was in Vietnam on a mission sent by President Clinton, to deliver to the Vietnamese microfilm of some 3 million captured Vietnam War documents that pertained to finding American POWs and MIAs. The newspaper states that the mission was scheduled to meet with Communist Party General Secretary Do Muoi. The reports do not confirm that Senator Kerry was part of the US delegation; however, in his press release of July 2, 1993 announcing the formation of the delegation, President Clinton mentioned John Kerry and noted that "Members of Congress and representatives of veterans groups have traveled to Vietnam to press for the goal" of resolving the fate of American service personnel who did not return from Vietnam. There is ample documentation that John Kerry has met with General Secretary Do Muoi. The Far Eastern Economical Review of February 11, 1999 notes that Senator Kerry met with Do Muoi when he visited Hanoi in December 1998. In a speech given on the Senate Floor on April 29, 1992 Senator Kerry discussed in detail a meeting he had recently had with Do Muoi in Vietnam to discuss the fate of American POWs and MIAs. A photo widely circulated on the Internet shows John Kerry formally posed with Do Muoi. The two men are seated with a statue of Ho Chi Minh in the background. The existence of photographs showing Senator Kerry meeting with General Secretary Do Muoi is not in question. In the course of pursuing the POW and MIA issue, it is reasonable that Senator Kerry would seek to meet with the communist leaders of Vietnam. The critical issue is that the Vietnamese communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States. The sign outside the entrance to the room where Kerry's photo is displayed reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance." Also exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's cause. ---------- Mr. Lupetti also photographed a picture honoring Jane Fonda, who stands next to Nguyen Thi Dinh, deputy commander of the Viet Cong. . Photograph of Nguyen Thi Dinh and Jane Fonda displayed in the Women's Museum, Saigon, May 28, 2004. ---------- The photographs shown below accurately reflect the appearance and content of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon as of June 2, 2004, and document the context of the photo placed to honor the service John Kerry rendered to the Vietnamese communists with his anti-war protest activities. Bill Lupetti has reported that as he photographed exhibits in the Museum he began to attract police attention. He and the Vietnamese who were with him were reluctant to return to the Museum to take additional photographs after June 2. . Photo #1 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Poster showing Italian anti-war support reads in Italian: "Vietnam Is Our Conscience." . Photo #2 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Posters showing German anti-war support. . Photo #3 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. United States anti-war posters. . Photo #4 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-war protest poster from India. . Photo #5 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Wall of international anti-war protest materials. The glass covering the Kerry / Do Muoi photograph reflects this display, which is the wall on the opposite side of the room. . Photo #6 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Corner view which overlaps the wall photo in the previous photograph, diagonally across from the Kerry / Do Muoi photo. . Photo #7 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Detail of left wall on corner in Photo #6 above, diagonally across from the Kerry / Do Muoi photo. Black and white photo at left shows war protestor David Miller publicly burning his draft call-up notice in 1965, an action which inspired other similar protests in the American anti-war movement. . Photo #8 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-war protest banner in Spanish. Banner is in the display case before the photographs shown in Photo #5 above. . Photo #9 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Anti-War protest banner, Al-Fatah. Banner is in the display case before the photographs shown in Photo #5 above. . Photo #10 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon. June 2, 2004. Photo of Vietnamese Communist General Giap. This photo is to the left of the Kerry / Do Muoi photograph. In the top photo in this article, this photo is obscured by the Viet Nam News paper held up to document the date. . Photo #11 Wall of the War Remnants Museum in Saigon, June 2, 2004. Direction sign outside museum. ---------- No photograph in this article has been altered in any way. All photos are reproduced here exactly as they were taken by Bill Lupetti in Saigon on May 28 and June 2, 2004, and posted to the Swift Boat Album at MyFamily.com. John Kerry helped North Vietnam and the Vietcong win their war against America. More than 30 years later, the Vietnamese communists still recognize his contribution to their victory. -- Eternally Yours in Socialism - Stamp Out Individual Rights! Comrade Red, Chairman - Commies For Kerry President VCVK - Viet Cong Veterans for Kerry http://communistsforkerry.com/ "Vote for John Kerry or else!" - Al Quaeda ( "I'm Osama Bin Laden and I approve of this commercial!" ) "They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow � and they will win.� - Michael Moore You don't own your life, the collective does, for the greater good!
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