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Article #819Re: The six hundred pound gorilla in the living room. (was: AmDissidentVoices: Who Is Guilty?)
From: Mapanari
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:04
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:04
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"Everett Hickey" <lithium@ev1.net> wrote in message news:3bbb8442$1_2@newsa.ev1.net... | "Mapanari" <Mapi@austin.rr.com> wrote in message | news:s7Ku7.29110$pN2.9724945@typhoon.austin.rr.com... | > Oh, give me a break. | > | > Being clean, well organized, tilling soil, running irrigations ditches, | > having a nice family where the women are equal and little children | > arn't the sex toys of the master, and education is valued, | > is a western culture tradition, which the Jews brought to Israel. | > | > The fact that the Nazis came from the same culture means nothing. | > Pol Pot came from a totally diferent culture. | > Man's desire to exterminate vast numbers of his brethern using whatever | > means possible and any excuse when overpopulation is inherent is world | > wide, not cultural. | | Ummm... none of those things are specific to the west. Cleanliness is | something that most of the west gets low scores on, compared to many eastern | cultures where cleanliness is held in much higher regard. Cleanliness is the hallmark of civiliazation, which is why the European, Japanese and other cultures that ascribe to those values are superiour in just about every way to others that don't. Camel jockey's are not very clean. Just ask one to eat with both hands. Organization is | non-specific in general. Tilling soil - global, ditto irrigation (which was | practically invented in that region). The people who live in the Euprhates valley are so genetically, culturally and socially difernet from the first farmers of 20,000 years ago that it's meaningless to try and compare them to the present day inhabitants. Equality for women is a different | matter - but then again, much of the west was incredibly slow to adopt it | where other cultures embraced it early on. Child sex toys - imprisonable | here, executable there. As for education, it's more a matter of what than | how much. The middle east has a history of education, and preserved much of | what europe lost during the dark ages. The primary difference is much of | their education is theological whereas ours is secular. I could go into a 3 page long rebuttal of this point, but I fear it would be useless, although interesting, but too time-consuming. Suffice it to point out who built the library of Alexandria and what civilization imparted the science of bibliography, cataloging and the whole concept of historical writing, research and compilation thereof. The fact that there concept drifted into the middle east through greco/roman conquest and later Byzantine, makes the whole concept of learning, schools, libraries and literature a greco/roman/eurpean concept and not a camel jockey one. It's nice to read parts of history, and whatever pc professor taught you last, usually to denigrate "Dead white men history", but it doesn't make it so. mapi | | |
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