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2 total messages Started by KROWITZ Mon, 13 Jan 1986 15:52
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#69
Author: KROWITZ
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1986 15:52
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I've been away for awhile and haven't been reading my mail until recently.
Thanks for the Fortran speed comparisons between the DN330 and the Sun 3.
In the meantime a 330 upgrade board showed up on the doorstep of another
group in our ringnet, and I've taken the liberty of running a Whetstone
program on some of our nodes. For the record:

machine/OS			single precision	double precision
----------			----------------	----------------

DN320/SR9.0.020			308			190
DN330/SR9.0.020			714			658
DN460/SR9.0.020			689			425
DN660/SR9.0.020			723			446
VAX 11/782/VMS 4.2		1230			794
VAX 11/780/BSD 4.2 (UNIX F77)	399			364
Alliant FX/1			3953			3289

Note that an 11/782 is a dual -cpu 11/780 system in a master/slave
configuration. It is the same speed as an 11/780 for a single job.
The Alliant FX/1 is being marketed by Apollo along with its big
brother the FX/8. We have a very early production model
bought directly from Alliant with Rev. 1 processor boards. Rev. 2
boards are claimed to be 20% faster. For comparison, the numbers for
a Sun 3 (from David Hough's message) are:

Sun 3				860			790

Which is about 20% faster than the DN330. Note that the DN330 is
faster than any of the other Apollo machines for double precision
arithmetic (as is the Sun 3) -- an important feature for us
engineering/scientific number grinders. The DN330 (2MB) is $15,900
(list price). Anyone out there have the price on a comparable Sun 3
(ie. 2MB diskless node without compiler licences)? As it was
noted earlier, the DN660 (which used to be Apollo's fastest cpu)
is a *lot* more expensive at a list price of  $52,500 (but then
it's an older technology machine, 4MB, and a color screen and graphics
processor so it's bound to be more expensive).

As a parting note: Anybody got a copy of the Linpack
benchmarks (or the Livermore loops) that they can spare?

					-- David Krowitz
				         ( DAVID@MIT-MC.ARPA or
					   KROWITZ@MIT-MARIE@MIT-MC.ARPA )
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#72
Author: Randy Frank
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1986 14:56
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One obvious difference between the Apollo 330 and the Sun 3 is that Apollo
is still shipping 12 MHz cpus while Sun is shipping 16 MHz parts.  We have
been putting pressure on Apollo to do something about this, without much
luck.  Others who are concerned about this should do the same.
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