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2 total messages Started by ASPDMM Fri, 22 Aug 1986 14:46
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Author: ASPDMM
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1986 14:46
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Dear Asbed

  It is unfortunate, but true, that the United States,  once
the melting  pot of  peoples,  has  sufferred lately  from a
boiling  over of  sorts.   The  cumulative  effect of  such
events as  the Iranian hostage  crisis,  the  Munich Olympic
disaster,  and the  bombing of US marine  barracks in Beirut
(et al) has created an hysteria not seen since World War II,
when anyone of  oriental descent was herded  into "detention
centers", the free world's answer to concentration camps.

   Now,  I  point out  these things  not in  defense of  the
police officers who stopped you, but only to explain why you
are in  a bad  position when  it comes  to prejudice.    Any
Middle  Eastern  nationals,   those  who  look  like  Middle
Easterners,  have Middle Eastern  sounding surnames,  etc...
have displaced all other  minorities,  including blacks,  as
the most oppressed minority in America.

   Easy to say  for a white anglo-saxon  protestant you say?
Perhaps,  but WASPs are,  in fact,   the ruling class of our
oligarchical society.  End of story.

   As for your  dilemma with the police,  you are  again at a
disadvantage.    Whether at  56 or  65,  it  seems you  were
speeding.  That's all it takes.  You're on the wrong side of
the  law,  and  your  bargaining  position is  significantly
weakened.   IF you have had a witness or something, it might
have been different.   We here in Toledo,  Ohio have a funny
plight.    When driving  in  Michigan,   which could  happen
depending on what side of the street  you are on,  65 is the
de facto speed limit.  Michigan troopers just ignore it.  In
Ohio,  it's 55.   Easy to get careless,  and try telling the
Ohio trooper you got away with it in Michigan.

   Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox now.  I think you've done
all you can.   I also think not  much will come of it.   The
bottom line  is this;   you may  have been  unfairly treated
because of your  ethnicity,  you probably could  have gotten
off if  you were a WASP,  police  officers LOVE  to exercise
their power over civilians,  the do  it all the time and get
away with it.

Dave Massey
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Author: jc
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1986 22:53
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>    Easy to say  for a white anglo-saxon  protestant you say?
> Perhaps,  but WASPs are,  in fact,   the ruling class of our
> oligarchical society.  End of story.

Our oligarchy isn't quite as uniform and seamless as some would 
have us believe.  Here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, the
dominant names are mostly Irish and Italian.  But things are 
changing; both the candidates for governor have Greek names.
Granted, the centuries-old money is in WASP hands.  But there's
lots of decades-old money in slightly darker hands.  

True, there is lots of prejudice against middle-easterners.
But the major frictions around here currently are with the
Cambodian and Vietnamese immigrants, and with the older
Chinese population.  Members of these groups are being
attacked and beaten, and the courts are shrugging it off.
As for the cops, well, sometimes they are the attackers.

On the other hand, if there were a big news story like the
Iranian hostages, there is little doubt that local bullies
would use it as an excuse to beat the #$@#$ out of a few
people with Arabic-sounding names.  

Yes, I know that Iran is not an Arab country.  So?  Around 
here, the large Armenian population got a lot of the blame 
for the hostages' troubles.  When people are looking for 
victims to harass, they rarely go to the trouble of making 
such fine distinctions.  Look at all the nuts that blamed 
the Jews for OPEC's price increases a decade ago.
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