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Love-Hounds Digest			    Thursday, January 9, 1986, 12:28

Today's Topics:

 			  Re:  kb rarities ...
		 wretched and pompus art rock (3 msgs)
			Taiwan fan club bootleg
		   Yet another review of HOL (2 msgs)
		     KB & Joni comparison (2 msgs)
		      Cloudbusting Video (2 msgs)
			    'Bye everyone...
			     Xmas presents

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Date:     Tue, 17 Dec 85 10:28:34 EST
From: Jim Hofmann <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  Re:  kb rarities ...

>> A Kate Bush Christmas album??????

>I've never seen this?  It must be a bootleg.  Does it look like a
>bootleg?  It's probably also the soundtrack to the "Kate" TV special.

Actually, I kinda lied.  What I saw was an article in the local paper,
which listed Christmas albums ... and think they called it Kate like
the 2nd part of the Taiwan Fan Club Boot.  Maybe they got it released
legit or separated it. I didn't in fact see it.  I did see the
first Tawain Club bootleg at Vinyl Discoveries and can pick it up
for anyone interested as I'm going back there today to get a HIRAX
album.  (anyone hear of them?)

hofmann

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 85 09:48:17 est
From: Tim Wicinski <wicinski@nrl-css.arpa>
Subject: wretched and pompus art rock


speaking about the subject, I heard that ELP is getting back together. 
It will be Called Emerson, Lake, and Powell.  Cosy Poweel joined the 
other two, mainly because Carl Palmer making huge gobs of money being
a geek for Asia.  I've heard the name of Cosy Powell before, but I'm
not sure where.

uurgh....death to writers who dont report the facts...

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Date: Wed 18 Dec 85 08:31:05-PST
From: Bob Knight <KNIGHT@SRI-NIC.ARPA>
Subject: Re: wretched and pompus art rock

Yeah.  Cozy Powell.  He played in the Jeff Beck Group and Ritchie Blackmore's
Rainbow.  Seems like he's determined to climb down the ladder as quickly as
he can, eh?

Bob
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Posted-Date: 18 Dec 85 09:01:37 PST (Wed)
Subject: Taiwan fan club bootleg
Date: 18 Dec 85 09:01:37 PST (Wed)
From: tsung@aero

That's interesting--I'm from Taiwan, but don't know of such club.  But then
I left there 8 years ago and did not exactly keep up with their western music
scene.

I did see what must've been the first Taiwan club bootleg in a local store 
once, it seemed to contain mostly songs from "The Kick Inside" album.  I
didn't pick it up, but it was gone the next time (some other l-hound
lurking around in Pasadena . . .).

Female vocalists with "sweet" voices has always been popular in Taiwan
(e.g. Olivia Newton-John), so I'm not surprised if Kate attracted a
following there with her earlier work.  I just hope the fan club (given
that it existed) didn't die with the release of "The Dreaming"! :-)

Maybe I can somehow get more info on this (club) from (what's-left-of) my 
friends in Taiwan.  No promises, though.

Fu-Sheng

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Date:  Wed, 18 Dec 85 10:04 MST
From: "James J. Lippard" <Lippard@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  Re: wretched and pompous art rock
Reply-To:  Lippard@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA

That's old news.  More recently I heard that Cozy Powell left the new
ELP to form a new heavy metal band, so they're looking for a new "P".

   Jim (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA)

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 85 13:41:01 GMT
From: mit-amt!seismo!mcvax!ukc.uucp!lkt
Subject: Yet another review of HOL


< Line eater : I aint afriad of no mail : -> Munch , Munch >

The following review appeared in Phoenix:The magazine for Kent students :-
My comments in --.

  After three years absence, Kate is back with an album that could only be 
called a myraid of haunting spectualar tracks. The *Wuthering Heights* 
screeching has been replaced with a patchwork of sounds including Sade-esque
soul, traditional irish folk backing music and drumming that could have 
originated at an Apache indian tribal dance! Although this mixture sounds well
[,] its odd to say the least; the credit goes to Kate for getting it to work!!
And it does!!

  She's lost the little girl lyrics and come up with subtle political messages
, hard-hitting poetry and there's even helicopter sounds at the end of 
*Waking the Witch* on side 2 which are taken from Pink Floyds *The Wall*. [ Big
deal !! ]

  Some cynics may say its too fragmented, *EMI* had to be bullied into
releasing it [anybody else heard this ?] and others think her passe but.
*Hounds of Love* is the *Best* album l've heard this year and was well worth
waiting for!!

[Reviewed by T.B.]

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My comments :-

 First i think the people at Phoenix should get a better proof-reader, in the
original *Waking the Witch* was *Walking the Witch* :-) The reviewer talks 
about subtle political message, I did'nt think there were any on HOL. 
The comment about Helicopter sounds being  from *The Wall* , so what was so
great about this??

 Finally even though the Reviewer seems to be confused , at least he/she 
likes the album.

 Oh, and before I forget :- A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!

 "December will be magic again"
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 85 23:10:32 est
From: hound!hejira
Subject: KB & Joni comparison


Geez Doug, sounds like all that bitterness on your part about Kate's being 
compared to Joni was fruitless.  After all, in the January issue of 
_Musician_, Kate draws the comparison herself (comparing her shift from 
that strained [my word], high voice in her early work to the more full-
bodied, deeper voice on TD & HoL to Joni's shift from the her high
voice of her early work to her deeper, jazzier voice of her later work).
See, the goddess herself has committed the crime of crimes.  SO THERE!!!

Next, maybe Joni will compare herself to KB.  Then again, I wouldn't 
want *her* to stoop so low.   :-]

	- Rob Preston	<ihnp4!hound!hejira   -- AT&T Bell Labs>



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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 85 23:10:47 est
From: hound!hejira
Subject: Cloudbusting Video


Just saw the Cloudbusting Video on U68 (EWR/NYC).  The VJ announced
afterward that it (the song) is based on a true story that happened 
in the Pacific Northwest in the '50s.  Have I missed something, or 
is he out of his mind?  Last I heard, Organon was something out of 
a sci-fi novel and wasn't anywhere near Hood Canal.

	- Rob Preston	<ihnp4!hound!hejira   -- AT&T Bell Labs>



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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 85 00:03:54 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  Cloudbusting Video

> From: Rob Preston,

> Just saw the Cloudbusting Video on U68 (EWR/NYC).  The VJ announced
> afterward that it (the song) is based on a true story that happened 
> in the Pacific Northwest in the '50s.  Have I missed something, or 
> is he out of his mind?  Last I heard, Organon was something out of 
> a sci-fi novel and wasn't anywhere near Hood Canal.

It is based on a true story!  It's based on "A Book Of Dreams" by Peter
Reich, who is the son of Wilhelm Reich.  "A Book Of Dreams" is about the
experiences Peter had with his father.  I thought that most of the book
takes place in Arizona (I haven't read it yet, though I have read one
chapter that I have a xerox of), but I could be wrong....

Henry Chai should know, and I'm sure he'll tell us.

				"I still dream of Orgonon"

				 Doug

P.S.  I asked Kate why she misspelled "Orgonon" and "Organon", and she
said it wasn't intentional.  "Organon" is a real word and Wilhelm Reich
used "Orgonon" as a pun....

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 85 00:18:20 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  KB & Joni comparison

> From: Rob Preston

> Geez Doug, sounds like all that bitterness on your part about Kate's being 
> compared to Joni was fruitless.

I don't mind if they are compared like "Both Kate Bush and Joni Mitchel
are wonderful artists."  I just get uspet when people say "Kate Bush is
the next Joni Mitchel".  (Of course, this was said most often before
"The Dreaming" and isn't likely something that you'd hear now -- now you
hear "Suzanne Vega is the next Joni Mitchel"...)  It just bothers me
because I don't see much similarity in their music.  (Though now that
Joni is getting it on with Fairlights and drum machines....)

> After all, in the January issue of _Musician_, Kate draws the
> comparison herself (comparing her shift from that strained [my word],
> high voice in her early work to the more fullbodied, deeper voice on
> TD & HoL to Joni's shift from the her high voice of her early work to
> her deeper, jazzier voice of her later work).

Strangely enough, I like KB's lower voice better and JM's higher voice
better (though I like all of KB's voices better than any of JM's
voices).

> See, the goddess herself has committed the crime of crimes.  SO
> THERE!!! 

But she didn't say "I'm the next Joni Mitchel"!  She was just using JM
as an example of why she likes to sing lower now than she used to.
Besides, what does Kate know anyway!  She doesn't even know that "There
Goes A Tenner" was really about her fear of producing "The Dreaming"!

			"Apart from a photograph,
			 they'll get nothing from me"

			 Doug

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 85 01:01:54 EST

>From ins_aset@jhunix Wed Dec 18 19:37:38 1985 remote from jhunix
Date:     Wed, 18 Dec 85 19:37:34 EST
From:     Susanne E Trowbridge <ins_aset@jhunix>
To:       love-hounds%mit-eddie.arpa@seismo.UUCP
Subject:  'Bye everyone...

Just thought I'd say goodbye -- I'm heading to Michigan for a family 
yuletide, & all that.  I'll try to keep up with my mail via modem, but
the cost may prove too prohibitive, even at the low rate hours...

...so have happy holidays!  I know I'll be trying to...

-Sue

ps- My dad is 52 and he bought HOL about a month ago -- and loves it!
Hmmm, should I give him "The Dreaming" for xmas?


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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 85 01:44:58 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Xmas presents

> From: Sue

> ps- My dad is 52 and he bought HOL about a month ago -- and loves it!
> Hmmm, should I give him "The Dreaming" for xmas?

Sure!  I dunno if he'll like it, but it'll be interesting to see what he
says.  My mum makes funny faces whenever I play "The Dreaming", but
doesn't dislike her earlier stuff and some of "Hounds of Love".
However, she thinks that Roy Harper's voice is even worse than KB's on
"The Dreaming".  Maybe I should bring some Nina Hagen home this Xmas....

				"Hallowed be thy name"

				 Doug

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Date: Thu, 19 Dec 85 01:51:44 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  Yet another review of HOL

> From: lkt@ukc.uucp

>>  Some cynics may say its too fragmented, *EMI* had to be bullied into
>>  releasing it [anybody else heard this ?]

Nah, that's just untrue.  EMI probably wet their collective pants when
they heard the album ("Thank God it's not another 'Dreaming'" probably
ran through their collective mind), and thought of all the money they'd
make.

And who are these cynics?  I've seen very very few negative reviews of
HoL.

> The reviewer talks about subtle political message, I did'nt think
> there were any on HOL.

Well, it depends on what you mean by political.  Kate Bush doesn't
really ever write from a political viewpoint, and she is notorious for
not wanting to talk about politics, but some of the issues she writes
about can be seen as being political in some sense.  On HoL, there is
"Cloudbusting", which deals with the U.S. government throwing Wilhelm
Reich in jail, which kills him.  And "The Big Sky" and "Waking The
Witch" seem to be, in part, jabs at the British music press.

			"They look down at the ground, missing."

			 Doug

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@mit-eddie.mit.edu