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Love-Hounds Digest			    Saturday, January 11, 1986, 11:00

Today's Topics:

    Greek and Czechoslovakian/Russian influences in "The Ninth Wave"
      If you can't please yourself, you can't please your soul...
	      Roy Harper, Pete Townsend, and David Gilmour
	    A wrestling match between Debbie Harry and Kate?
		      Kate, Debbie, and James Bond
		     Lazarus Life After Death award

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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 85 21:08:19 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Greek and Czechoslovakian/Russian influences in "The Ninth Wave"

> [Steve Tynor:] Now, can anyone provide a translation of the men's
> chorus lines?  I've heard several of you refer to it as 'greek
> chorus'.  Why?

I wish I knew what they were singing too.  It might just be sounds.  In
any case, I called the chorus "Greek" because Kate said in her
newsletter, a long time before the album actually came out, that there
was music on the album that was inspired by a Greek ritual ceremony.
The chorus was the only music that sounded Greek to me.  That chorus, as
we now know, was actually inspired by music from Werner Hertzog's movie
"Nosferatu", and is actually, acording to Kate, some sort of Russian or
Czechoslovakian traditional music.

The music from the Greek ritual ceremony actually appears in "The Ninth
Wave" as the rhythm to "The Jig Of Life".

			"Now is the place where the crossroads meet"

			 Doug

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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 85 21:24:17 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: If you can't please yourself, you can't please your soul...

> From:     Susanne E Trowbridge <ins_aset@jhunix>

> IN any case, here is more info on the Some Bizzare (yes, that's the correct
> spelling) compilation, "If You Can't Please Yourself You Can't Please Your
> Soul."

This sounds like a wonderful album.  Strangely enough, they even had a
big poster for this album on the wall at EMI-America Publicity when I
went to interview Kate.  It has a beautifully disturbing cover.

> 5. Psychic TV, "Twisted."  From the remains of Throbbing
> Gristle...Psychic TV's alter-ego is Coil (who are on side 2).

I like all of these groups, especially Psychic TV.  I didn't know they
are related, however.  How are they?

				"You, you're unclean..."

				 Doug

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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 85 22:23:38 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Roy Harper, Pete Townsend, and David Gilmour

Here's the whole story behind the "Hope"/"White City Fighting"
similarities.  This is taken from an article by Andy Mabbett in "The
Amazing Pudding", a Pink Floyd fanzine:

	Mr G. returns to play lead on the title track, a song which he
	co-wrote called "White City Fighting".  This song has quite a
	history.  For those of you who haven't been paying attention,
	Dave wrote this music for "About Face", but had no lyrics for
	it.  He sent it to Pete, who wrote these lyrics for it.  Dave
	didn't think the lyrics applied to him (they tell the tale of a
	star's rise from "rags to riches").  Roy Harper heard the tune
	and wrote different lyrics, which Dave also rejected as
	inappropriate.  (This time it's a message to future
	generations).  Roy used the tune with his lyrics, as "Hope" on
	his "Whatever Happened to Jugula?" album.  Dave is uncredited on
	this & Roy's son plays a guitar that sounds more like Gilmour's
	than Gilmour's does.

	Pete then decided to use his version for this project and asked
	Dave to play on it -- hence his involvement here.

	Roy's "Hope" is slower, with more echo on the guitar and a laid
	back Harper vocal which reaches deep inside the listener.

	Pete's interpretation, faster and with a clearer guitar sound,
	has its lyrics sung in a much more aggressive fashion.  It's
	ironic that one is looking forwards and the other looking back.

	I can't choose between the two -- each has its own attraction
	and it's great to hear them back to back.  This recording
	featuring Dave & possible Pino, is presumably closer to the
	original, but I'd love to hear it and see.

I haven't heard "White City Fighting", but since Roy's "Hope" is close
to perfection, I truly doubt that "White city Fighting" can be as good.

			"That we both may share
			 The hope in hearing
			 That we're not just
			 Spirits disappearing"

			 Doug

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 00:32:01 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: A wrestling match between Debbie Harry and Kate?

In the January issue of SPIN (the issue with the review of HoL), there
is an interview with Debbie Harry and Chris Stein of Blondie....

	SPIN: You were into wrestling long before Cyndi Lauper.  Do you
	think you're the toughest female vocalist?

	DEBBIE: No!  I'm a pussycat.  I'd hate to face the Weather
	Girls.

	CHRIS: Debbie could take Kate Bush.

	DEBBIE: I could beat Cyndi Lauper.  Anytime, anyplace!

Maybe they should have a three way free for all....

-Doug

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 00:54:48 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Kate, Debbie, and James Bond

Later in that same interview....

	SPIN: "For Yours Eyes Only".

	DEBBIE: That was supposed to be the theme from the James Bond
	movie.  We thought they wanted us to write one.  Actually, it
	turned out that they already had a song they wanted me to sing.
	Kate Bush did it.  [Hummmmph!!!  -Doug] Oh, no.  It was Sheena
	Easton.

Kate was asked to sing the title song to "Moonraker", but turned it down
saying that she didn't think she could do a good job.  Maybe Debbie and
Kate should form a club for singers who have turned down the opportunity
to sing a James Bond title song....

		"Ooh, James, are you selling your soul
		 To a cold gun?"

		 Doug

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 85 02:29:55 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Lazarus Life After Death award

Melody Maker just awarded Kate runner up to the Lazarus Life After
Death award.  Gee, thanks guys....

		"She said c'mon let me live"

	         Doug

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

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