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Love-Hounds Digest			    Monday, January 20, 1986, 02:35

Today's Topics:

			     Break-Through
				bangles
			      Goodbye ...
			      Cloudbusters
			      KB interview

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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 86 05:57:22 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Break-Through

The infamous North American KB fanzine, Break-Through, is back in
business again.  They just came out with their first issue in a year.
The name seems like an anachronism now, however.  I think they should
change their name to "Broke-Through".

			"Over America, can't do anything"

			 Doug

P.S.  Has anyone else noticed that in the broken up speech in "Waking
The Witch" right after "Bless me father, for I have sinned", Kate says
"Listen to me, baby -- listen to me come -- UUH!"?

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Date:         Wed, 8 Jan 86 13:16 EST
From: David M. Hardy <HAADAV@MITVMA>

>  Referent to the Santa Claus: Wow, I didn't know turnaround time
> was quite that long! Sorry if it seemed out of place.

>  -Dave "Keep Running up that Scale" Fetrow
>   (1/7/85)
         ^^
It was actually nice.  I've heard of things getting delayed in the mail,
but a year?  Even the USPS doesn't do that (too often) :-)  Perhaps some
sort of bizarre time warp?

Anyway, anyone here familiar with a band called Barclay James Harvest?
I heard a song from them years ago and never heard or saw anything from
them again, until yesterday, that is, when I found a CD called 'Live
Tapes'  They sound a little bit like a cross between early Genesis and
the Strawbs, and the CD is great.  I don't think they're a new band by
any means, but I like their sound, especially "Suicide" (the one I heard
a ways back).  I'd like to know some more about them...
                                            >>> Dave
Acknowledge-To: David M. Hardy <HAADAV@MITVMA>


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Date:     Thu, 9 Jan 86 10:48:24 EST
From: Jim Hofmann <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  bangles

Because this list seems generally receptive towards women in pop/rock music, I'd
thought I'd mention the bangles (wicinski's old sweethearts) have released an
album including a cut I heard on the radio called "Walk Like An Egyptian" that
I had thought was Siouxie or Ten Thousands Maniacs --- when I heard it was these
Liverpudians I was amazed at how much their style had matured ... forgive me
for making an analogy which will be made (I think) alot about this group but
this reminds me of the Beatles going from Meet The Beatles to Revolver ... 

Flames on ...

hofmann

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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 86 13:54:59 est
From: H. Chai <utflis!allegra!ihnp4!utcsri!chai>
Subject: Goodbye ...



Starting this Friday (if not, VERY soon) our machine is to be isolated
from the rest of the UN*X net. (all a matter of politics) No more news.
No more mail from another machine.  No more new versions of hack. No
more Love-hounds!  *sigh*

Before I go, let me metion that on the Friday after X'mas "Good Rockin'
Tonight", produced by the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) in
Vancoucer, aired an interview with KB and showed the _Cloudbusting_
video.  The cloudbuster shown in the video was nothing like the real
thing, which was just a simple contraption of straight metal tubes.

Also the latest issue of _Breakthrough_ contains pictures of all five
versions of the _The Kick Inside_ album covers. There is also a section
called "Cover Girl" which has all the magazine covers which featured
KB.  There are over twenty of these, dating back to 1979.  _BT_ has
switched to a newspaper format, though, which isn't exactly an
improvement.

Well, it was nice talking to you all. *sniff* :.-(

Keep on running up that hill !!   

--
Henry Chai, just a humble student at the 
Faculty of Library and Information Science, U of Toronto
{watmath,ihnp4,allegra}!utzoo!utflis!chai        

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Date: 09 Jan 86 09:37:07 EST (Thu)
From: J Eric Roskos <think!harvard!topaz!peora!jer>
X-From: J Eric Roskos <jer@peora.UUCP>

>    KATE: Right!  [Little laugh.] Well, uh, [in an amused and puzzled
>          tone of voice] I think you... it's kind of weird the level
>                                                     -----
>          of interpretation that you are reading into things,
>          because...


Oh, my... this is most discouraging and depressing... sort of like the
essence of the solipsism in the Human Experience, you know?  Sort of like
the cranial sutures, which, though inseparable, are distinct and not
united for all their intertwining...

I remember one of my professors in college, the one who taught Romantic
Poetry, Charles Lloyd (famous coach of the undefeated GE College Bowl
champions years ago) said, once,

	You write these poems, and people find meaning in them that
	you didn't know was there.  So, did you really put it there,
	did you really mean to say that?

	[a long pause]

	Certainly, you did.  You knew it was there!

It's hard to believe that poetry that is consistent, and basically good
poetry, should also be accidental.  I can believe that of Jon Anderson,
who writes meaningless phrases that you find meaning in, like patterns on
a randomly-patterned wall, but not with coherent poetry.

Maybe there's more to it than that... I wonder if John Carder Bush reads
her lyrics and says, "why don't you change this to say ..." ?  Or if maybe
it's like the explanation of the backwards singing.

Reading this interview reminds me a lot of an interview with Vangelis, where
he simply refuses ever to say anything at all, only "I play the music,
and it comes out."  More than that, it is somehow disarming...

Well, I've got to get to work... more later.


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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 86 22:06:30 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Cloudbusters


So long Henry.  We'll miss you.

> The cloudbuster shown in the video was nothing like the real thing,
> which was just a simple contraption of straight metal tubes.

I'm told by someone who claims to know about such things that the
cloudbuster in the video has all the elements necessary for a working
cloudbuster and that it is remarkably accurate, even though it does not
look anything like the original one (the one in the video is all
Hollywooded up),

				-Doug

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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 86 23:54:10 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: KB interview

> From jer:

> It's hard to believe that poetry that is consistent, and basically
> good poetry, should also be accidental.  I can believe that of Jon
> Anderson, who writes meaningless phrases that you find meaning in,
> like patterns on a randomly-patterned wall, but not with coherent
> poetry.

I've written a little bit of (bad) poetry.  What's really strange is
that often I just write what I think is nonsense.  A bunch of phrases
that pop into my mind, with images and vague symbols -- but nothing
coherent.  Then I might find the poem in a pile of junk a while later,
and when I read it, I know exactly what it means.  So, did I put that
meaning there unconsciously when I wrote the poem?  Or did I just read
that meaning into the poem later?

> Maybe there's more to it than that... I wonder if John Carder Bush
> reads her lyrics and says, "why don't you change this to say ..." ?

I dunno.  Maybe, but I kind of doubt it.  What's interesting is that
Kate said that the "tenner" / "tenor" double entendre was not intended.
On the other hand, I asked John Carder Bush if the "morning" /
"mourning" double entendre in "My Lagan Love" was intentional and he
said that it was.  Now I really want to ask Kate if the triple entendre
with "I wash the panes" (" I wash the windows" / "I cry" / "I wash the
hurt and pain") in "Get Out Of My House" was intentional.  It seems *so*
perfect that it must have been!  But if she thinks about this enough to
have come up with such a perfect triple entendre here, then how could
she have missed the "tenner" / "tenor" pun?  Maybe it is all
intentional, but only subconsciously....

There was a very interesting interview with Kate in a recent issue of
Hot Press.  She says some things that seem to hint that she does operate
on a subconcious level for many things.  For example, the interviewer
asked her about the covers to "Lionheart" and "Hounds of Love" and said
they might be seen as being somewhat kinky.  Kate said that she hadn't
thought about them that way before, but now that he mentioned it, maybe
she did see that they could be seen that way.

			Knowing no feeling
			My mind wanders through your world
			Only words live now

			Doug

P.S.  John Bush said that he'd be willing to send me some of his poetry.
But I haven't gotten off my butt yet and written a letter to him.
Anyone else interested?

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@mit-eddie.mit.edu