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Love-Hounds Digest			    Monday, February 17, 1986, 20:55

Today's Topics:

			     J. Lippard/MJ
		  Michael Jackson's religious beliefs
				stuff...
			      Jello on MTV

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From: ambar@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 09:06:48 EST
Subject: J. Lippard/MJ


Just a note:  Michael Jackson is a devout Jehovah's Witness, NOT
a Seventh-Day Adventist!  (Definitely not the same thing, nor even
close--)
				Jean

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Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 86 14:13 MST
From: "James J. Lippard" <Lippard@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  Michael Jackson's religious beliefs
Reply-To:  Lippard@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA

Oh well.  Thanks for the correction.  I can't remember for sure, but I
think I got that piece of misinformation out of the newspaper--the
Arizona Republic, which is not exactly the paragon of accuracy.

    Jim  (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA)

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 18:43:18 EST
From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: stuff...


	Re: desert island cassettes

	Hey hofmann, no fair using C90 cassettes! This way I could have
squeezed all my "2nd 10" selections in too. Well, I guess since I got
to name my 2nd 10, and Tim included lots of multiple album sets, makes
it even :-)...

	Where can I find Bill Lazur's stuff? Is he in that Rough Trade
catalog that I should be getting in the mail any day now??

	Thanks to Doug for forwarding my Art Zoyd request. Since I didn't
get any responses to my Univers Zero and However requests, I assume
the two albums I'll review will not be old hat to everybody:

HOWEVER		SUDDEN DUSK

	However is on the Random Radar label, which I have never heard of
before this. They included a little brochure with the album. Fred Frith
does some stuff for them, so they're probably cool... :-)

	Anyway, However plays acoustically flavored chamber music/rock,
almost like Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. 3 or 4 of the 10 tracks have
lyrics. The songs are the strong points, since the band seems more
focussed with lyrics to work from. Most songs are fast, zany and clever,
kind of like free jazz and Captain Beefheart. The instrumentals have some
nice sounds, but tend to wander and the bad parts have a dangerous
tendency to resemble the worst of Wyndham Hill/New Age things. (This is
NOT a slight of WH in general, please note!)


UNIVERS ZERO	HERESIE

	Imagine the world disintegrating around you. The heat death of the
universe approaches. On a barren windswept desert plain, a group of 
musicians play a quiet music of death and decay. This is Univers Zero...

	Purple prose aside, Univers Zero plays relatively lowkey, rock
and jazz influenced modern chamber music. If you're into comparisons,
they sound like a mixture of Arnold Schoenberg, Joy Division and Chrome,
without a dominant beat. They play pretty depressing and dissonant music
on mostly acoustic instruments. Their sound is not very varied, so the
long pieces sound really LONGGGGGG (their tracks are timed at 12, 13
and 25 minutes!) My French is not good enough to decipher the few lyrics.
Despite all this, I feel they're still worth looking into for a unique
experience. At least they have cool band pictures...:-)


	By the way, thanks to hofmann for the Plan 9 recommendation.
FRUSTRATION was a nice neo-psychedelic fix...


				Bill Hsu

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Date:  Thu, 6 Feb 86 19:09 MST
From: "James J. Lippard" <Lippard@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  Jello on MTV
Reply-To:  Lippard@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA

I got this off a local BBS.

Absolute message # 934
Author: HAYSI FANTAYZEE
Date: Feb 06, 1986  Time: 05:18:55 Pm
Title: Jello Biafra on MTV

     We have a song, "MTV Get Off the Air." MTV is the worst thing to happen
to music since Saturday Night Fever.  It's bringing back every stupid cliche',
sexism, racism.  For example, word has it they wouldn't play anything by
anybody unless their skin was white until CBS threatened to yank all their
other videos off the air unless they played Michael Jackson.  The Rick James
suit didn't hurt either,
 I'm sure.  The crux of MTV was stated by one of the guys running it in an
interview in the Sunday Chronicle-Examiner.  When he was asked why there
wasn't any black music on MTV, his answer was, "We don't want to cater to
fringe groups." And the color of a person's skin determines whether or not
they are a fringe group.  That kind of attitude is just the glitzy neon
version of trying to bring back the Eisenhower era.
     Rock 'n' roll is a tool of the state at this point.  Look what kind of
rock 'n' roll gets on the radio: "I love you, baby.  Suck my dick." Or if
you're female and you want to get on the radio: "I'll love you baby.  I'll
suck your dick."
     Part of the line in "MTV Get Off the Air" is when the DJ says, "Don't
create, be sedate." That's what they're pushing: don't think, consume!  Don't
go outside and see what our country's like.  Sit inside and watch television.
They've finally figured out a way to get people to watch television
commercials 24 hours a day!

        -- Jello Biafra, of the Dead Kennedys


  Jim (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA)


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